I havent read but if kii is at 4 votes and atlas is voting him i assume its for a good reason
VOTE: Kiiruma
Can play later
Whisper Log
D1
| Seat Order | D1 Whispers | (#2) | (#3) | (#4) | (#5) | |
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[1] GGhana | |||||
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[2] Someone | (Atlas) | ||||
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[3] L.una | (Atlas) | (Jarek) | (Magnus) | (May) | (Artemis) |
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[4] Baker | (Atlas) | (Magnus + May) | (Artemis) | (Silviu + Hazard) | |
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[5] Tutuu | (Silviu + Atlas) | (Silviu + Magnus) | (Hazard) | (IcetFeelsPain) | |
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[6] Kiiruma | |||||
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[7] Bionic | (IcetFeelsPain) | ||||
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[8] Jarek | (L.una) | (Silviu + May) | |||
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[9] Luka | |||||
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[10] IcetFeelsPain | (Tutuu) | (Hazard) | (Bionic) | (Atlas) | |
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[11] Artemis | (L.una) | (Baker) | (May) | ||
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[12] Silviu | (Tutuu, Atlas) | (Baker + Hazard) | (Tutuu + Magnus) | (Jarek + May) | |
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[13] Magnus | (May + Hazard) | (L.una) | (Otterpopd) | (Baker + May) | (Tutuu + Silviu) |
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[14] May | (Magnus + Hazard) | (L.una) | (Baker + Magnus) | (Jarek + Silviu) | (Artemis) |
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[15] Otterpopd | (Magnus) | ||||
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[16] Atlas | (L.una) | (baker) | (Tutuu + Silviu) | (IcetFeelsPain) | (Someone) |
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[17] Hazard | (Magnus + May) | (Baker + Silviu) | (Tutuu) | (IcetFeelsPain) |
D2
| Seat Order | D2 Whispers | (#2) | (#3) | (#4) | (#5) | |
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[1] GGhana | |||||
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[2] Someone | (Artemis) | (L.una) | (Bionic) | (Tutuu) | |
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[3] L.una | (Atlas) | (Jarek) | (Baker, Atlas) | (Someone) | (May) |
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[4] Baker | (L.una, Atlas) | (Hazard) | |||
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[5] Tutuu | (Kiiruma, May, Atlas) | (Someone) | (Luka) | ||
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[6] Kiiruma | (Tutuu, May, Atlas) | (Hazard) | |||
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[7] Bionic | (Someone) | (Jarek) | |||
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[8] Jarek | (L.una) | (Bionic) | (IcetFeelsPain, Magnus) | ||
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[9] Luka | (Tutuu) | (Artemis) | (Hazard) | (Magnus) | |
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[10] IcetFeelsPain | (May) | (Jarek, Magnus) | |||
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[11] Artemis | (Someone) | (Magnus) | (Atlas) | (Luka) | |
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[12] Silviu | (Magnus, Hazard) | ||||
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[13] Magnus | (Artemis) | (Silviu, Hazard) | (Jarek, IcetFeelsPain) | (Atlas) | (Luka) |
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[14] May | (IcetFeelsPain) | (L.una) | (Tutuu, Kiiruma, Atlas) | ||
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[15] Otterpopd | |||||
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[16] Atlas | (L.una) | (L.una, Baker) | (Artemis) | (Tutuu, Kiiruma, May) | (Magnus) |
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[17] Hazard | (Silviu, Magnus) | (Kiiruma) | (Baker) | (Luka) |
D3
| Seat Order | D3 Whispers | (#2) | (#3) | (#4) | (#5) | |
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[1] GGhana | |||||
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[2] Someone | |||||
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[3] L.una | (Luka) | (Jarek) | (Magnus, Atlas) | (May) | (Hazard) |
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[4] Baker | |||||
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[5] Tutuu | (Magnus) | ||||
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[6] Kiiruma | |||||
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[7] Bionic | |||||
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[8] Jarek | (L.una) | (Hazard) | |||
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[9] Luka | (L.una) | ||||
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[10] IcetFeelsPain | |||||
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[11] Artemis | |||||
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[12] Silviu | |||||
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[13] Magnus | (L.una, Atlas) | (Hazard) | (Tutuu) | ||
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[14] May | (L.una) | (Hazard) | |||
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[15] Otterpopd | |||||
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[16] Atlas | (L.una, Magnus) | ||||
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[17] Hazard | (Magnus) | (L.una) | (Jarek) | (May) |
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I changed my mind. Jarek and Bionic are both socially evil.
The host has given you the following advice:
This feels partnered as a way to distance yourself from a teammate when you’re struggling to remain afloat, and Jarek’s explanation that Bionic was claiming a Gossip ping confirming information that was heard elsewhere doesn’t quite line up.
This doesn’t exactly deny being the Demon, and it’s a fairly innocuous argument to survive through the previous day when he wasn’t nominated. Which doesn’t quite line up with his understated unwillingness to die, although that’s not necessarily AI.
(#7015)
Jarek’s insistence that Tutuu must be the Demon due to his action and his refusal to consider alternate worlds (tunnel vision) isn’t something completely out of his town range, but when he’s pushing that vote without hearing out alternate sources of information or checks, and without really reading into teammates, suggests another image.
Anyway, here’s what actually tips me off.
I posted that prematurely.
This feels relevant to compare SFoL70, where Jarek was the evil king. In a private chat on the first night, he learned some private roles that weren’t going to reveal themselves publicly at first. During that game, Jarek took the opportunity to leak this information publicly for the sake of his evil team, which I was reminded of here.
Granted, the context isn’t 1:1.
I think this makes Jarek and Someone unaligned, though, if Jarek here was evil and Someone was real, and he was worried about a double-confirmation occurring here.
It doesn’t unalign Jarek and Tutuu, necessarily, if a bus attempt was occurring here, but that’s neither here nor there. Any reflection on Tutuu’s slot here is purely mechanical.
I think Jarek being the demon is quite likely honestly.
But I’m not going to travel out because then I don’t have a dead vote.
I will however:
VOTE: Kiiruma
o7
I’m not but I don’t care if you don’t believe me at this point, I already know that tommorow whatever I say will be ignored and won’t be looked at and if the demon does die it won’t be because of anything I said
It’s already been shown to me that we’re willingly ignoring information that points to specific people to listen to the loudest voice in the room that talks the most and I’m not that - so be it
whos the information that we’re being pointed to?
Well for one seems like mine is being ignored almost entirely.
I honestly hope it’s a mastermind day so I everyone can be wrong.
who do you think our information is pointing to, then?
No clue because this is BOTC and nobody tells you anything if they think you even have a micro-chance of being evil
but you said this
how would you know that the info doesn’t point to you?
gambler doesn’t completely clear you; and most of the suspects have something or another going for them
It dies if it was wrong so I would argue it very much does
huli-jing innkeeper
huli-jing courtier
huli-jing sailor
minstrel
huli-jing puzzlemaster
They have to be out of play characters, so at least two maybe three of those are dead and gone
the main and (apparently, only) way for one suspect to be good is if last night was a minstrel day
its hard to say thats out of the question