We had a private whisper yesterday with Icet in which he claimed that action.
And this has just been getting sat on for 2/3 of the day why?
I would personally say, ignoring technical know-how, the formerâs actions this game feel characteristic for v!Jarek, but not for a generally v!player, if that makes sense. Considering the Bishop nominations with how the latter was picked alongside Baker and Biotic seemingly out of the blue, I would say the latter is less likely to be evil as well.
I donât have a reason to really suspect either of them, but the former would make more sense than the latter as a wolf to me.
It wasnât very significant to me because I have never been a Demon candidate in this game, hence why I didnât bring it up. Nor did I require the extra confirmation if nobody was asking for it.
(I forgot.)
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This is why I said this game couldnât be mech locked.
Iâm fine with being publicly confirmed good from like, three mechanical sources at different stages of the game though.
Speaking of vague good confirms, can you talk about why Silviu and Hazard arenât under scrutiny at all?
Nothing mechanically clears either of them. The former was in a double-claim with Baker for a bit before they backed down, which feels socially decent. The latter claimed one of the Outsiders on this script. Thatâs about it.
Keep in mind that Silviu was under heavy scrutiny during the first day, before Otter more or less fell on her sword⌠waitâŚ
I donât think Baker and Bionic are w/w from how Bionic has handled Bakerâs slot throughout the game. I can pull up quotes if necessary, but itâs 2 in the morning and Iâm tired.
I also donât believe the âStorytellers used an Ojo doublekill because they couldâ explanation for why there were three kills on n1.
)(i cant play rn but i can respond to this ping)
I was writing out what happened but then i got an idea. Artemis, if u want i can whisper u my convo with otter. We can include atlas or luka or something. Or litten. Then otter can respond either publicly or privately. This should confirm that we didnt fake our convo. Like an interrogation tactic used by the police - split the witnesses to see if their story checks out
But if u dont wanna go thru that; or ppl thing its a bad idea i can post what happened. I have it cut and pasted in my phones clipboard (not the whisper; the post at you i was writing)
I havent read but if kii is at 4 votes and atlas is voting him i assume its for a good reason
VOTE: Kiiruma
Can play later
Whisper Log
D1
| Seat Order | D1 Whispers | (#2) | (#3) | (#4) | (#5) | |
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[1] GGhana | |||||
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[2] Someone | (Atlas) | ||||
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[3] L.una | (Atlas) | (Jarek) | (Magnus) | (May) | (Artemis) |
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[4] Baker | (Atlas) | (Magnus + May) | (Artemis) | (Silviu + Hazard) | |
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[5] Tutuu | (Silviu + Atlas) | (Silviu + Magnus) | (Hazard) | (IcetFeelsPain) | |
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[6] Kiiruma | |||||
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[7] Bionic | (IcetFeelsPain) | ||||
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[8] Jarek | (L.una) | (Silviu + May) | |||
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[9] Luka | |||||
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[10] IcetFeelsPain | (Tutuu) | (Hazard) | (Bionic) | (Atlas) | |
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[11] Artemis | (L.una) | (Baker) | (May) | ||
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[12] Silviu | (Tutuu, Atlas) | (Baker + Hazard) | (Tutuu + Magnus) | (Jarek + May) | |
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[13] Magnus | (May + Hazard) | (L.una) | (Otterpopd) | (Baker + May) | (Tutuu + Silviu) |
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[14] May | (Magnus + Hazard) | (L.una) | (Baker + Magnus) | (Jarek + Silviu) | (Artemis) |
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[15] Otterpopd | (Magnus) | ||||
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[16] Atlas | (L.una) | (baker) | (Tutuu + Silviu) | (IcetFeelsPain) | (Someone) |
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[17] Hazard | (Magnus + May) | (Baker + Silviu) | (Tutuu) | (IcetFeelsPain) |
D2
| Seat Order | D2 Whispers | (#2) | (#3) | (#4) | (#5) | |
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[1] GGhana | |||||
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[2] Someone | (Artemis) | (L.una) | (Bionic) | (Tutuu) | |
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[3] L.una | (Atlas) | (Jarek) | (Baker, Atlas) | (Someone) | (May) |
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[4] Baker | (L.una, Atlas) | (Hazard) | |||
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[5] Tutuu | (Kiiruma, May, Atlas) | (Someone) | (Luka) | ||
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[6] Kiiruma | (Tutuu, May, Atlas) | (Hazard) | |||
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[7] Bionic | (Someone) | (Jarek) | |||
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[8] Jarek | (L.una) | (Bionic) | (IcetFeelsPain, Magnus) | ||
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[9] Luka | (Tutuu) | (Artemis) | (Hazard) | (Magnus) | |
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[10] IcetFeelsPain | (May) | (Jarek, Magnus) | |||
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[11] Artemis | (Someone) | (Magnus) | (Atlas) | (Luka) | |
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[12] Silviu | (Magnus, Hazard) | ||||
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[13] Magnus | (Artemis) | (Silviu, Hazard) | (Jarek, IcetFeelsPain) | (Atlas) | (Luka) |
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[14] May | (IcetFeelsPain) | (L.una) | (Tutuu, Kiiruma, Atlas) | ||
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[15] Otterpopd | |||||
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[16] Atlas | (L.una) | (L.una, Baker) | (Artemis) | (Tutuu, Kiiruma, May) | (Magnus) |
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[17] Hazard | (Silviu, Magnus) | (Kiiruma) | (Baker) | (Luka) |
D3
| Seat Order | D3 Whispers | (#2) | (#3) | (#4) | (#5) | |
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[1] GGhana | |||||
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[2] Someone | |||||
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[3] L.una | (Luka) | (Jarek) | (Magnus, Atlas) | (May) | (Hazard) |
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[4] Baker | |||||
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[5] Tutuu | (Magnus) | ||||
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[6] Kiiruma | |||||
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[7] Bionic | |||||
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[8] Jarek | (L.una) | (Hazard) | |||
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[9] Luka | (L.una) | ||||
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[10] IcetFeelsPain | |||||
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[11] Artemis | |||||
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[12] Silviu | |||||
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[13] Magnus | (L.una, Atlas) | (Hazard) | (Tutuu) | ||
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[14] May | (L.una) | (Hazard) | |||
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[15] Otterpopd | |||||
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[16] Atlas | (L.una, Magnus) | ||||
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[17] Hazard | (Magnus) | (L.una) | (Jarek) | (May) |
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I changed my mind. Jarek and Bionic are both socially evil.
The host has given you the following advice:
This feels partnered as a way to distance yourself from a teammate when youâre struggling to remain afloat, and Jarekâs explanation that Bionic was claiming a Gossip ping confirming information that was heard elsewhere doesnât quite line up.
This doesnât exactly deny being the Demon, and itâs a fairly innocuous argument to survive through the previous day when he wasnât nominated. Which doesnât quite line up with his understated unwillingness to die, although thatâs not necessarily AI.
(#7015)
Jarekâs insistence that Tutuu must be the Demon due to his action and his refusal to consider alternate worlds (tunnel vision) isnât something completely out of his town range, but when heâs pushing that vote without hearing out alternate sources of information or checks, and without really reading into teammates, suggests another image.
Anyway, hereâs what actually tips me off.
I posted that prematurely.
This feels relevant to compare SFoL70, where Jarek was the evil king. In a private chat on the first night, he learned some private roles that werenât going to reveal themselves publicly at first. During that game, Jarek took the opportunity to leak this information publicly for the sake of his evil team, which I was reminded of here.
Granted, the context isnât 1:1.
I think this makes Jarek and Someone unaligned, though, if Jarek here was evil and Someone was real, and he was worried about a double-confirmation occurring here.
It doesnât unalign Jarek and Tutuu, necessarily, if a bus attempt was occurring here, but thatâs neither here nor there. Any reflection on Tutuuâs slot here is purely mechanical.