Stratagem-10 FM - MAFIA VICTORY

[guavagudetama]

I can’t wait to be called flip floppy again for doing that

[Jarek]

TRUE

[guavagudetama]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO HI JAREK

[Jarek]

VOTE: guavagudetama

flip floppy

[Jarek]

UNVOTE

[guavagudetama]

I forgot your vote wasn’t already on me this was so confusing
I gaslit myself into thinking you were voting me

[Jarek]

[guavagudetama]

@Lissi are you okay btw

[Jaiden]

• same amount of execs
• reveals more info
• gives more time for the first exec

• loses the chance of a d1 scum exec

yeah, we do get more info by killing someone, but then we are almost always a single ml from mylo because we never hit the d1

my issue is we dont have room for error here and need better odds than we have d1

[guavagudetama]

you said you were gonna go to class three hours ago and fell off the face of the earth

[Jaiden]

we literally do not have this its 9v3

[guavagudetama]

@Jaiden

my issue is we dont have room for error here and need better odds than we have d1

when I say we have room for error I mean we aren’t at mylo

[Jaiden]

yeah but we are a total of 2 wrong moves from it and you want to put us on 1

[guavagudetama]

@Jaiden

yeah but we are a total of 2 wrong moves from it and you want to put us on 1

I don’t want to put us on one
I want to hit a wolf
But if we were to go to 1 away from no room for error that would be okay because it would give us information in return
which can then be used to find a wolf

I doubt either of our opinions are going to change (not to say my opinion is unchangeable I just don’t think it will) so I’d prefer to talk about something else unless you have another point you haven’t brought up yet

[Jaiden]

it will not give us enough information
we never hit wolves d1
look at the facts man
the facts are on my side here

[Memes]

I’d be down for no exe tomorrow but not today, i didnt invest all of this time playing the game for no info.

[Cream]

hm… interesting answer

“bookmarked”, as you would put it lol

I think I kinda have a sense now

I think you are town, but I also feel like given your response, if you are scum you are competent enough to fool me if I give a half-assed effort on reading your slot

[Cream]

[Magnus]

@Achromatic

Youre probably town here then huh.

Thats cool.

I’m not sure whether there’s a thought process here we aren’t seeing, but this read towards Jarek (being pushed at the time) feels almost textbook, extending an olive branch towards a villager in need. This is contingent on Jarek being Town, but this post doesn’t feel like theatre.

@Achromatic

Whose your most confident town read and why? Havent read topic yet but noticed your name first while scrolling up. Are you a good player iyo at identifying town?

@Achromatic

Hey guava you feel a bit different here than you did in umineko. Do you think this is my imagination or are you playing differently for a reason you believe you can explain?

Also i am going backwards, can you explain what about memes strikes you as particularly genuine? Also, have you ever played with scum memes before?

Asking questions of others in order to appear engaged with the thread… not really AI in isolation.

@Achromatic

Okay in that case i will pocket you by saying you are probably town and by vittue of you giving me an explanation i will put jaiden as probably town for now as well.

Self-aware.

@Achromatic

town jarek know to distance from a scum guava? What did you mean here?

Also my read of memes at a glance is his reads cut too shallow for my taste which is not atypical from his town game though. I think my take away after playing with him on mu a couple of times is game state really paints guilo in a certain light if you know what to look for. I dont think he would allow himself as scum to get outflanked with a weak partner so if someone slanking flips scum that interaction is probably telling.

I treat him with caution though since the last time we played i got told 50 times his scum game would own me. God i cant believe that game on mu that should have ended like two days before lol

The first statement points out an apparent contradiction in Memes’ prior statement, which wasn’t really picked up by the rest of the thread.

@Memes

From a town perspective. Jarek is maybe trying to distance from scum!Guava while keeping their tunnel on me, better keep pushing me than spewing anyone else town, after all, if he flips scum, im already super town lock clear from his flip.
This is in a world where both are goons but i dont think they are now.

I think it’s possibly a misinterpretation, though. The rest of Achro’s post boils down to a nullread with a warning sign to look out for.

@Achromatic

Also i am glad to know we can all agree jaiden is town based on her vote.

I dont even know if i am being sarcastic right now tbh.

Lets read jaiden

Something something healthy fear? Eh.

@Achromatic

Hard to get into jaiden’s head early tbh. Being a bit less whimsical with her approach to me probably yields better reactions than what she got. Either shes town having fun with the bit we have created for ourselves or scum keeping up appearances, nothing much to grab onto. Feels a bit tame in tone tbh

Nullread.

@Achromatic

Wonder if memes/jarek is a world. Describing your pursuit of someone as a death tunnel is a good way to appear aggro but also dissaude people from voting with him.

This doesn’t sound like a worldview Achro really believes in, but his next dozen posts drill into Memes like he did. I’m guessing this ties in with the previous post about Memes’ posts being shallow, which is perhaps representative of a consistent mindset… or it might be Achro remembering Leafia/Jarek in UFO and wondering if a similar thing is happening here, or seeming to wonder if it is. This isn’t a great look if so.

Hmm. Needs more data, ig?

[Memes]

Scum me is highly capable of fooling anyone, anyone. I got a 90% scum win rate.

Less as town, much less but that is because town basically throw so my “ego” is not fed for being right.

True story.