Stratagem-13 FM - MAFIA VICTORY

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@PrincessAbigail

Yep

Nope <3

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@PrincessAbigail

@Garfooled

You’re not annoying

Trust me
Trust fall
I will catch you

Hey. Pocket someone else

Guava is mine

Ladies ladies there’s enough of me to go around

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@Agentt

Ahhhh, must be a site culture difference but I am not used to people having existential crises in middle of games.

I can’t think of a game where this hasn’t happened so def site culture LOL

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@Caitlin

Also fwiw, Luka & Agentt p clearly aren’t SvS imo

Agreed

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@Agentt

That leaves Abby, Eliza, Leafy, and beancat.

Okay

VOTE: ElizaThePsycho

Why not this, then?

[Luka]

@Manaphy

Do u have a wolf game i could read?

Deceive Inc FM: Misery Empire Hydra - MAFIA WIN

Yeah, but mafia is a team game. When an individual player makes a borderline gamethrowing move, yeah it’s frustrating and yeah it can waste a phase, but town always has an opportunity to rebound. It was the casual disregarding of the last day phase that ultimately did town in.

Legacy Forum of Lies 2 - The Psychopathic King, Possessor, and Alchemist win - #4128 by CRichardFortressLies (Olivia)
Stratagem-15 FM - MAFIA VICTORY - #4214 by Vulgard

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@Agentt

I don’t want to suspect people based on their content right now, atleast not on D1.

What? Does your homesite not catch wolves d1?

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@joycat

The way Luka pushed Guava / Agent is bad; he didn’t seem to be phased at all by Guava being perfectly fine with voting Agent, even while I encouraged Guava to move.

I’m obviously biased on my own push because I know I’m town but I also didn’t like Luka → Agent push
Like I’ve been saying the whole Luka/Caitlin/Agent interactions felt really off to me

[Leafia]

Isn’t it good for town for mafia to kill inactives at night though?

@Caitlin

I do give this a derpclear

Also fwiw, Luka & Agentt p clearly aren’t SvS imo

Why do you say this?

@Luka

3v8 is inherintly scum sided given we only get 2 mls with 3 evils. Killing an evil today is of all the more importance.

There’s only 2 wolves. Not 3.

@joycat

This is indeed what I’m doing, as me and Cat townread him.

Anyway, Garfooled has felt pretty towny, and I’m also willing to sheep Manaphy’s read on him, since he claims he reads newly replaced players well.

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This response I feel makes an Agent/Joycat scumteam a bit less likely I feel.

@Manaphy

Thats not panicky from Eliza, i kinda think that posting is a bit of town of eliza more than anything else she has done, i think their vote on agent is wolfy

Why do you find it wolfy?

@Luka

@Leafia

Not sure what to think of the confrontation between Luka and Agentt right now but I have high hopes in it helping me improve my read of both of them.

Kinda LAMIST, bit worried

Nothing LAMIST about that post.

@PrincessAbigail

Gonna need that post

I’ll try finding it then.

@Leafia

@Caitlin

VOTE: Unvote

Dunno if this works

But I think I wanna give Agentt a chance to be more townie because I think maybe tone isn’t that big of a tell here and Agentt does have in their advantage that;

• They’re clearly not frozen which I’d kinda expect most new!mafia to be there
• No one is against it aht much

Considering that Caitlyn is the second highest wagon, I find this unvote to be very villagery. Anyway, now I can feel comfortable voting. VOTE: Agent

Here is the post I found very villagery and the one I was talking about.

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@Luka

Needed to do something

Valid

@Luka

I forgot I thought you were town

Have you considered making a google doc? I always forget who I’m reading what and why so I started making google docs so I wouldn’t forget
Or I just post it in a discord channel that only I can see

[Luka]

@Garfooled

I’m not letting them unpair themselves with Caitlin

Because it doesn’t unpair them? So of course I’m not?

@Garfooled

I found you towny because of low motivation

This is a bad reason for me, you cant really tell if im motivated or not. For the other two I don’t know.

@Garfooled

I don’t remember that tbh, I wonder if you forgot I was missing a whopping 1000+ posts

What- I’m not being agressive- I’m just stating that isn’t a great reason to town read somebody. This is being agressive for 0 reason though.

@Garfooled

You didn’t correct me

I. Just did.

@Garfooled

And you were voted by guava, not Agentt

Did you ignore the thread too? I was talking with Agent at the time

@Garfooled

How is being tilted at being voted for no reason related to Agentt?

They voted me, they just didnt understand how the command works.

@Garfooled

What is so different here?

You not unvoting a PR last second maybe

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@Luka

I believe this was already adressed, but there always exists the possibility of a double bluff. You cant go into a game and expect the scum team to hard defend one another; and you cant go into a game and expect one party to just not vote there teamate or be fine with it. If you do, chances are you’ll lose by a bussing strategy.

Fuuuuuuuuck is Luka town
This feels townie

[Luka]

@guavagudetama

Have you considered making a google doc? I always forget who I’m reading what and why so I started making google docs so I wouldn’t forget

I have a few for read lists late game, but I generally don’t do it early game.

[Luka]

@Leafia

There’s only 2 wolves. Not 3.

The joke was it was a fake town slip. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.

@Leafia

Nothing LAMIST about that post.

It just. was unnened in a sense, and if one of us was wolf it would change our view; since we would be more tacticful. It felt uneened as town and it was read to specifically be town read; ie: Lamist

[Leafia]

Do you mean unneeded? Als, LAMIST is when you talk about how villagery you are.

[Luka]

In the context ive seen it used, its more a statement that aims to project towniness or a townie POV. For example: “Genreate discussion!” or “I genuinly think that we need to vote people to win; we cannot win without voting people” stuff that implies villager without being well- villager.

Unneeded was a better way to put it though. Just didn’t quite encapculate what I didnt like about it imo

[Leafia]

I only consider pounting out how villagery you are to be actually LAMIST myself.

[Luka]

Ah, I see.

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y’know what
VOTE: Caitlin
Zenon’s Law vineboom
Luka’s wallpost on Eliza made me change my mind on voting her (I had forgotten every Eliza post) and I’m starting to trust Luka

[Manaphy]

@guavagudetama

Like, if Caitlin were to die tonight, I would definitely be focused on Abbi, so like why would a wolf say this even as a joke y’know?

Ohh my sweet child