Stratagem-13 FM - MAFIA VICTORY

[Luka]

Evolving Reads
Town

• Eliza

[Luka]

@Leafia

This is a wolf 100%

Townie post, opening doesnt seem akward and wolves usually want there opening to kind of come off as a bang. Big bad opening. This doesn’t do so, so I’d call it town.

@Leafia

Joking asidee, I’m policy exeing anyone that hammers without the approval of the majority of the players after the last game and I’m also not going to ignore obvious signs that someone is a wolf.

I already elaborated on why this is town, but I dont think this post comes from a wolfie POV given it limits options and instnatly makes enemies. It also doesn’t really appear to be written pre game.

@Leafia

Guava gets a slight townlean from me for pointing this out.

This feels fairly pockety? I inherintly disagree with the read at hand and it feels as though they’re putting guava into a pocket. I don’t think Leafia is this obvious as wolf though so I’d be willing to say they’re not SvS, but thats a fairly weak read inherintly.

@Leafia

Could you explain your read on me please?

Similarity showing wariness with being pocketed, easily fakable.

@Leafia

Going to give Luka a townlean to as his reason for townreading me seems genuine and is something I honestly agree with.

No scum reads at this point but this town lean is genuine(hehe) and it feels as though they think that? At the very least the process to town reading me was natural and unforced.

@Leafia

Why do you think Luka is scum?

I’m a bit wary of a pocket just based on this post, but >.<

@Leafia

Hmmm, seems like a villagery response to me. I feel a wolf would at least try to make up a reason for the townreads. Slight townlean for Guava.

Going to give Joycat a slight scumlean for now. They just feel unnatural to me in a way that I don’t like. Like they’re trying too hard to fit in and it feels forced.

I agree with basically all of this, despite me missing guava’s posts at first. It continues to feel natural in a sense; unforced.

@Leafia

Not sure what to think of the confrontation between Luka and Agentt right now but I have high hopes in it helping me improve my read of both of them.

Kinda LAMIST, bit worried

@Leafia

I’ve never seen you do so period.

True! So this is probably the first game that I’ve visibly been annoyed. I’d say its more townie than not, no?

@Leafia

This feels wolfy to me in a way. It seems like it’s trying to set up for possible misexes to me. That’s what my gut is telling me anyway. It reminds me of last game where Icy tried pairing me up with their scumbuddy.

Me >.< Not Icy
Anyways, this is fairly townie as well. Visible suspicion at what exaclty is going on in the thread state, at the very least thinking things out which once again I dont think wolves do. Thinking instead of just typing is generally twonie, shockingly.

I skimmed most of the wall posts, but I’d say that Leafia is likely to be town. There posts exude a townie post thats hard to really articulate / put into words. The only thing I’m worried about is that inherintly I’ve never seen Leafia wolf, and I just. get a horrible gut feeling. but they’re probably town, so lets just roll with it!

[Luka]

Evolving Reads
Town

• Eliza
• Leafia

[Luka]

Continuing the discussion from Stratagem-13 FM - Day 1 (11/11):

@Garfooled

Aren’t I silly and obvious town for it?

Mmhm! You are silly and obvious town!

@Neblig

I’m hesitant to call anyone town cause there’s a lot of good players

I. relatable. I understand this frustration kinda wholey. This feels as though they’re confsed with well- who to twon read. I can see this coming from a wolfie as well but this post is def townie.

@Garfooled

(I read first few hundred)

pats

@Garfooled

But you finding me sussy is TOWN INDICATIVE

!!! This post seems to be generally twon frustrated at being scum read! Yay! I have so much towns tho… so frustrtating >.<

@Garfooled

This is very unpairing of you

Confusing? I can’t see how a simple distnacing tactic early game can really be very unpairing. s!lean for this ost

@Garfooled

Leafia, Agentt town
Luka a bit town
Caitlin and guava the sussy
Unsure how I feel about the rest

I don’t really get these either. Can you elaborate on them?

@Garfooled

It feels like they’re discussing town related things in hydra chat

Me and Icy roleplayed as town last game so we can use this tell. It doesn’t really work :p and given how last game went I have a scum lea non you for bringing this up.

@Garfooled

Were you tilted by this?

Uh. I was tilted at me being voted, from when my point of view I did nothing wrong >.< not that I was being ignored.

Uh. Not super in depth since I really dont have the time- but this is my least favorite ISO yet. Overall it seems different from there town games; more easy to make reads and super easily pocketable. At the same time, the slot before them seemed townie but I don’t know there experience before faking it. At the moment before continuing with my ISOs this is my top scum read, but mostly null to be honest. It’s due to lack of other reads at the time. VOTE: Garfooled

[Luka]

Evolving Reads
Town

• Eliza
• Leafia
• Garfooled
  Mafia

[Luka]

Evolving Reads
Town

• Eliza
• Leafia
• Garfooled

Mafia

[Luka]

I lost motivation. Maybe in a few hours.

[Manaphy]

@Luka
Do u have a wolf game i could read?

[Garfooled]

@Luka

!!! This post seems to be generally twon frustrated at being scum read! Yay! I have so much towns tho… so frustrtating >.<

This was a joke

@Luka

Confusing? I can’t see how a simple distnacing tactic early game can really be very unpairing. s!lean for this ost

“I won’t give you that”
I’m not letting them unpair themselves with Caitlin

@Luka

I don’t really get these either. Can you elaborate on them?

Leafia based on meta, they’re not acting like someone’s out to get them
Agentt gives off massive town vibes with their playstyle, I found their first few posts towny
I found you towny because of low motivation

@Luka

Me and Icy roleplayed as town last game so we can use this tell. It doesn’t really work :p and given how last game went I have a scum lea non you for bringing this up.

I don’t remember that tbh, I wonder if you forgot I was missing a whopping 1000+ posts

@Luka

Uh. I was tilted at me being voted, from when my point of view I did nothing wrong >.< not that I was being ignored.

You didn’t correct me
Interesting

[Garfooled]

@Luka

Agent woke up and decided to ignore me
Thats rather funny

@Luka

ignore the thread *

And you were voted by guava, not Agentt

[Garfooled]

How is being tilted at being voted for no reason related to Agentt?
They didn’t vote you

[PrincessAbigail]

@Garfooled

I can’t read into it because you would do it as both alignments
Making it not town motivated

I read into NAI things all the time

There’s generally a difference

[PrincessAbigail]

Even if you’d do it as both

[Garfooled]

Also Manaphy said I am matching my townplay from the hydra game
What is so different here?
Besides it not being a hydra game and me not getting the first brunt pressure D1 (which could change things a bit)

[PrincessAbigail]

@Leafia

@PrincessAbigail

Cause i don’t think she’s town told

I remember her doing so. I don’t remember the post though.

Gonna need that post

[Garfooled]

I think their response to pressure to me was towny

[PrincessAbigail]

@Caitlin

Also I saw some stuff about Abbi saying she’d NK me as mafia and ppl called that antitown but it rlly isn’t cuz like;

1. It ups the odds of me being NK’d and since I’m an LHF in an environment like this that’s positive let’s be real
2. It’s just a fact, I don’t think it’s alignment indicative for Abbi that she states it

Your not lhf…

[Garfooled]

@PrincessAbigail

I read into NAI things all the time

There’s generally a difference

@PrincessAbigail

Even if you’d do it as both

We’ll have to agree to disagree
I find it generally mafia-sided to say what you did
And you agree to that extent

[PrincessAbigail]

I really can’t catch up and i really can’t be here at EoD soooooooo fuck it

[PrincessAbigail]

More of my town reads are on Agent

VOTE: Agent