Stratagem-15 FM - MAFIA VICTORY

[Arctic]

I don’t really believe you… I was wondering why you stopped suspecting garfooled so I checked and you said that their response to your push was towny, but I checked and it… wasn’t - they barely even reacted to it, and the extent to which you believed you had caught them seemed far too much that it could be forgotten about due to a nothingburger response to your push

this is partly why I think you might be a wolf - I started suspecting you again when you started the whole “zomg everyone so towny” shtick because I didn’t think this made sense with how you were playing - you scumread garfooled, zug, luka, and you did explain that your luka push was a reaction test, but your garfooled and zug pushes just kinda fizzled out. without any real reason or actual acknowledgement from you that you’ve changed your read. it felt like how wolves just fizzle out pushes they know they don’t believe in when it’s obvious no one else is going to bite, but if you were town I feel like there would have been a more defining point where you actually decided that you didn’t want to push these players

@May

Also I agree that Zug is villagery town from the village chat. For the record. And I got a Zooka triple earlier I’m almost like a real VShot player (you need a quad for that)

you said this about zug but I don’t know why

[Zugzwang]

anyway I must go now
i will be back like 5-10 minutes before eod
which kinda sucks
if there’s a post I like, absolutely should see when I get back, ping me

[May]

@Arctic

and the extent to which you believed you had caught them seemed far too much that it could be forgotten about due to a nothingburger response to your push

You know how I’m good at faking confident-sounding cases on townies as a wolf? This is because I have a lifetime of experience faking confidence in RVS as town.

[PrincessAbigail]

I likely miss EoD I’m super sick right now I’m gonna try to sleep

If I come back it’ll be like right at the end

[Host_Account_5]

Votecount as of P#1200

WindwardAway (2): lol, guavagudetama
guavagudetama (2): PrincessAbigail, Arctic
lol (2): Luka, WindwardAway
Caitlin (1): Garfooled
PrincessAbigail (1): May
Zugzwang (1): Caitlin

Not Voting (2): Psyx, Zugzwang

[PrincessAbigail]

Imma leans my vote where it is cause i think this wagon structure will lead to a lot of very useful information as EoD approached and I’m happy here anyways

[PrincessAbigail]

Good luck town I believe in us!!

I love you all sorry for my behavior earlier

[May]

Anyway, rather than getting distracted by a half-written explanation of how my proper town playstyle works to Arctic, time to conduct a review of the game and push someone. I think I know who I want executed today, but I want to be more thorough than I have been.

[May]

I deleted the explanation cause it sucks as an explanation and doesn’t communicate information well but here’s it if you want to read me off it or hwatever

It is the earlygame. The value of any push, from my perspective, is much more in gauging the reactions to it than actually executing a wolf. When I decided to push Zug in the earlygame, it wasn’t because I thought Zug was extremely wolfy, it was because I saw everyone townreading him and wondered what would happen if I did the opposite. Same goes for Gar. Same would’ve gone for Luka, if I went for him. I’m fucking around and I’m finding out, and the reason it seems like my enthusiasm for the game has just fizzled is because I haven’t had the time/energy to keep fucking a

[Luka]

@PrincessAbigail

I likely miss EoD I’m super sick right now I’m gonna try to sleep

Feel better soon

[Arctic]

your reason for stopped the garfooled fos:

@May

They seem fairly confident & like. Willing to be audacious. They didn’t react, like, as someone who had been “called out” to my scumcase on them, I think.

garfooled’s reaction to your push:

@Garfooled

I did the readlist because I remember people asking for mine last game
So I beat them to it

@Garfooled

Also readlists look like I know what I’m doing

(Ok, now I’m going after bookmarking my ISO spot)

which does not feel like what you described at all

And then you asked them a question, to which they gave what you told me was the wrong answer:

@May

@Garfooled

Also readlists look like I know what I’m doing

On a scale of 1-10, nya, how confident would you say you’re trying to seem in thread, nya, and on the same scale, how confident would you say you actually are right nyaow~?

@Garfooled

2/10 for both
I’m not here
I just kept getting pinged while looking for my bookmark
And kept getting distracted

@Garfooled

I had confidence…
It’s kind of gone now that I’m not being TR for existing
Shid

@May

And I have mismatched confidence in my mismatched confidence read on Gar. The layers keep going, dogboy. (You’re reading simultaneously too much and too little into that question. It was for Gar, not you. I hadn’t explained what my purpose was for it. Let me do that now.

Admitting to having mismatched confidence was actually the towny outcome for Gar there. What I was looking at to wolfread them was the completely unprompted readlist; I had previously given them specific advice to make readlists as a wolf to keep their “thoughts” straight, and though I intended, like, “private readlist for your own list”, I’m pretty sure the way I gave it was ambiguous. The other purpose of the readlist would be to project RVS-stage confidence as town, which is why I asked: if they had mismatched confidence, that would explain it away. A 2 and a 2 does not, so I did not revoke my wolfread.)

You even admit that their reaction was not the towny outcome in the last post. so I really do just think you are bullshitting here

[Luka]

Im going to ISO garfooled. I dont think me responding to Arctics / Mays argument is very productive; I stand by that thats TvT ftr.

[Arctic]

did you save this in the #mayposting channel in wolfchat in case you wanted to use it later

[May]

@Arctic

You even admit that their reaction was not the towny outcome in the last post. so I really do just think you are bullshitting here

More just plain wrong than bullshitting, actually: I think I was conflating Garfooled and Zug. They used to have similar avatar colour schemes. I didn’t re-read Gar when I took my vote off them, because I remembered going “they’re not wolfy anymore”, and I might’ve been thinking about Gar. Let me go back through that, I might actually still wolfread it.

@Luka

Im going to ISO garfooled. I dont think me responding to Arctics / Mays argument is very productive; I stand by that thats TvT ftr.

I also think this is probably TvT.

@Arctic

did you save this in the #mayposting channel in wolfchat in case you wanted to use it later

Whenever I delete a substantial post, I put it on my clipboard in case I immediately change my mind and want it back. That way, it’s saved until I see something else more important to copy.

[Arctic]

@Luka

I stand by that thats TvT ftr.

I don’t

@May

More just plain wrong than bullshitting, actually: I think I was conflating Garfooled and Zug. They used to have similar avatar colour schemes. I didn’t re-read Gar when I took my vote off them, because I remembered going “they’re not wolfy anymore”, and I might’ve been thinking about Gar. Let me go back through that, I might still wolfread it.

Garfooled’s only towny posts were at the start, ironically, when you suspected him, and after that he did nothing towny and you just stopped wolfreading him which is why I’m suspicious of this. I don’t know what he could have posted that made you stop wolfreading him. It feels like you just forgot about pushing him because you didn’t actually care about pushing him. I can’t really see this any other way when you admitted that his reaction to you was bad at the time and yet here you say his reaction to you was good. Unless you are claiming the post you made about his reaction being good now was about Zug and you got confused. but I just have to take your word for that and… I don’t really want to

@May

@Arctic

did you save this in the #mayposting channel in wolfchat in case you wanted to use it later

Whenever I delete a substantial post, I put it on my clipboard in case I immediately change my mind and want it back. That way, it’s saved until I see something else more important to copy.

unironically wolfreading the fact you responded seriously to this

[May]

Nya nya nya nya nya nya

[Arctic]

i would townread if this if i didnt just say i wolfread you for responding seriously

[May]

My patience runs thin

[Arctic]

well lucky for you, I am a generous god and will allow you to vote your wolf partner guavagudetama instead of killing you today

[Psyx]

I have a bunch of townleans/upper nulls, a few not-touching-on-D1s, some people I have no clue how to read, and zilch wolfreads. Also it’s past my bedtime and my brain is goo.