Stratagem-15 FM - MAFIA VICTORY

[May]

There isn’t much of anything that game. I was doing an impression of bad at game town mess May and it worked. Hated that it worked

[May]

I think that Gar might be town

[Zugzwang]

where I’m at (towniest to scummiest, tiers unsorted):

Arctic
Lol

May

Luka
Psyx

Abbi

Wind
Gar

(wind/gar are there mainly due to poe tho lol)

[May]

Do you think Wind/Gar together is ever plausibly The Scumteam?

[Zugzwang]

I haven’t taken a deep look at wind, nor gar’s interactions with wind, but maybe

[Arctic]

hi
sorry for afkness
my social life is returning… it’s crazy

[Luka]

@WindwardAway

Speaking of which, I kinda like Zug’s responses now so I’m gonna move my vote again.

Agree

@WindwardAway

VOTE: Garfooled

@PrincessAbigail you could learn from them

@WindwardAway

Because I had a very set strategy in mind for how to play D1/D2 and when to come clean on what I was actually doing

Well it worked (got you trd)

@PrincessAbigail

Anyone pushing me off this kill has a valid point. I would entirely play to kill Caitlin N1.

This entire post reads good to me tbh. I know its needless defense but regardless; it feels like abbi genuinly believes she doesnt kill cait here.

@WindwardAway

I think the theory that a t/t alliance between Abbi/Caitlin needed to be broken apart could be correct

I dont tihnk so. Abbi is always the kill there imo were that to be the case. I still need to read caits legacy TwT

@PrincessAbigail

I sign up if someone I wanna play with is playing and ignore literally every set up detail than ask people if there’s a post cap and never worry about it again lol

Lmao same

@WindwardAway

Maybe I should reevaluate Luka again?

Kinda what Ill always say but sure. Re-eval me, I dont think anything is going to change. Also I like people ISOing me, shows that they read my posts and my thoughts arevalid TwT

@WindwardAway

Only thing is that most of his posts quoting me and calling me wolfy were literally just that: bare bones, said I was wolfy because my posts were wolfy, not a huge amount of explanation there. On the one hand, good that he didn’t overjustify it? On the other hand, it felt a bit lackluster.

Im not great at explaining super well but(presuming this is d1) I thought your posts were wolfy since tmk youre a good player. Ive read the FOL nominations thread specifically, and tmk you were the one they sent to MU. I dont think town would do what you were doing without an agenda(which you clearly did have), and town having an agenda is rarer than wolves. Wolves meanwhile would do it to get town read, especially a player as experienced / good as you.

@PrincessAbigail

Lol is ALWAYS town here. I’m willing to stake the game and my life on it 100 out of 100 rands

Yes

@PrincessAbigail

Either way if you try to justify the play from a town or wolf perspective you should realize that this is only a town play. Always.

Entire post is townie.

@lol

psyx is an OK kill, killing garfooled seems like a disaster unless he did something super wolfy

Can I know why for the latter? Garfooled is my best push rn. I see reasons to think he’s good but it mostly sums up to vibes, id like to know a few townie posts(that I agree with).

@PrincessAbigail

Mmmm mindmeld. Delicious. Your my new favorite.

Im hurt

@PrincessAbigail

Town benefits from knowing Lol is both IC and that we will never get a red on a wolf. Town benefits from having more info.

Sure, but at the same time it prevents coming out late game. Id much rather have a toggleable IC that wolves are unaware of than more information here.

@PrincessAbigail

Its actually wolfy to try to play Lols claim off as anything but town or to bring suspicion towards it. Lol should always be treated as IC here fake or not.

Yes

@PrincessAbigail

They are now. Caitlin is an angel.

Oh okay thats good <3

@PrincessAbigail

This guy gets it

But im not your faovrite sobbing

@PrincessAbigail

Btw this list is still 100% town lol

no lol

@PrincessAbigail

If I’m right and I’m hard defending people. And I force wolfs to believe I will never reeval (cause I literally won’t) and I can get my town reads to also defend me

You re-eval all the time wdym

@PrincessAbigail

God your so town and I fucking love it.

Lol why? That post was one of the townier posts they have in there ISO, but they’re by no means locked town. Pocket attempt spotted.

@PrincessAbigail

This vote count is tragic…

Fix it

@PrincessAbigail

Below it is Scum Core

How can one mortal be so wrong
Can you explain zug?

@Zugzwang

It’s kinda funny how this is nearly the inversion of my reads…

Same tbh

@Zugzwang

Can you towncase yourself? Like, pick out things you wouldn’t be able to fake / would choose not to do as wolf.

Townie post

[lol]

@Luka

Can I know why for the latter? Garfooled is my best push rn. I see reasons to think he’s good but it mostly sums up to vibes, id like to know a few townie posts(that I agree with).

can’t help you with that, the vibes are simply immaculate posts are not necesary in this scenario

[Arctic]

@WindwardAway

I still think everything psyx has said has seemed reasonable? Like I don’t think you’re a wolf really at all, but if I had to name someone I thought was partnered with you, Garfooled was actually the only one I could think of, and I could see how Psyx might reach that conclusion if she’s less familiar with your meta.

that’s why the last line says it’s not because they started suspecting me, I thought that post was mostly fine, except for the one part I called out earlier

[Arctic]

@PrincessAbigail

I literally do not believe this.

That’s unlucky given that you can literally… see it happen

@PrincessAbigail

Psyx
WindwardAway
PrincessAbigail
Garfooled

May
Luka
Arctic
Zugzwang

Above the Line is Town Core

Below it is Scum Core

I don’t really understand why you’ve moved me down
For claiming to do something that I did in fact do on day 1? For explaining why I can see that there is wolf motivation to do what lol is doing, even though I do actually believe he’s town for it? Why is this wolfy?

[Arctic]

why

[Arctic]

zugzwang insane arc

[Arctic]

@Psyx

Thinking about it now, I don’t think Arctic and Gar would have displayed such seamless teamwork — Arctic making a meta case + voting me, and Gar going through my D2 posts with sus-tinted glasses — if I was correct on the two of them being teammates.

And based on what I’m getting from the metareads on Arctic, they seem to be a self-aware and capable wolf. It’s unlikely that they would do a “level 1 play” by repeatedly defending a wolfbuddy.

I would absolutely do all of this if I was a wolf with garfooled

However you’re right that if we were wolves together I would have educated them on how the mech in this game works

[PrincessAbigail]

@Zugzwang

You’d think that after calling someone out for hedginess, she’d at least not hedge herself. But no.

I’ve never once claimed I’m not a hypocrite :p

[PrincessAbigail]

@Luka

you could learn from them

?

[Luka]

sheep them
reading enders game btw so ill be inactive

[PrincessAbigail]

@Luka

Sure, but at the same time it prevents coming out late game. Id much rather have a toggleable IC that wolves are unaware of than more information here.

I wouldn’t Lol was hella push able

Outing it when he was not on the block is so much better because if he was getting run up when he outted it people like Zug and Arctic would be like this isn’t real kill kill kill

[PrincessAbigail]

@Luka

no lol

Yes

[PrincessAbigail]

@Luka

You re-eval all the time wdym

Yes because I have skill issue but also no depending on who it is lol

[PrincessAbigail]

@Luka

Lol why? That post was one of the townier posts they have in there ISO, but they’re by no means locked town. Pocket attempt spotted.

This is towny tonally that’s why