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[Garfooled]

The appreciation is appreciated

[guavagudetama]

I’m actually. Struggling to remember your posts I’m gonna iso you rq

[Garfooled]

noooo dont do thatttt
im like soooo town
everyone knows that

[Luka]

@WindwardAway

I would normally hate this take, but setup says we only have two scum in the game so it’s actually OK this time lol

Regardless of if its true or not there is genuinly a reason lol

@guavagudetama

Nothing they’ve said has been particularly townie to me

At least for me ive explained why they’re townie imo; not sure abt abbi, not reading into it to much due to there general playstyle

@guavagudetama

Or they don’t care because it’s only a few hours into day one and they had literally a vote on them

There’s still alot of content, thats possible but regardless

@guavagudetama

Abigail feels too eager to TR people atm if that makes sense

Going to defend this read
I can bring up SS’s of abbi from town games town locking people like. 2 seconds into the game. Genuinly isn’t very farfetched for her playstyle.

@WindwardAway

I’m keeping Abbi’s read on Caitlin in mind, it’s at least worth considering even if I disagree with it

Also i feel like there must’ve been a chunk of posts I didn’t read earlier, because I saw stuff that was quoted that I have no recollection of reading before, lol. But im going to sleep so I’ll figure out what I missed later.

regardless of if I disagree its clear thought was put into it and its clear that abbi genuinly believes it. They’re never SvS, and they’re never TvS(Abbi being the S here). They’re kinda just TvT or cait is scum, and im leaning towards the latter simply because im a sheep.

[guavagudetama]

@Garfooled

hypothetically if I was town
I would do this
Dabs aggressively

I don’t like this post
The phrase “if I was town/scum/whatever” has always rubbed me the wrong way
but it’s also probably thoughtless shitposting so

@Garfooled

@Caitlin

How do you know you are still alive at SoD2?

VOTE: Caitlin

I don’t have the fancy buttons to vote for me on this Phone
(Haha get it?)

Unexplained Caitlin vote other than quoting a post that doesn’t look like a bad post imo
Caitlin getting a lot of heat for asking someone why they think they’ll live today like I do not get it

@Garfooled

@Arctic

then suddenly agrees zug is town despite clearly suspecting him from her posts

Sounds like something I would do as wolf tbh be honest

More self meta posting

@Garfooled

This is what I got from that
Caitlin didn’t laugh at it for what it is, a joke
Because they were looking for something trivial to poke at
To look like they’re an aggressive town player

That’s… kind of outrageous, isn’t it?
I feel like it’s much more likely that, regardless of her alignment, she just didn’t understand that it was a joke

@Garfooled

Town reading Luka for this hesitance

What are your thoughts on Abigail?

@Garfooled

but it’s another thing I would do as scum, just poking at random shid

More self-meta + projecting

@Garfooled

noooo dont do thatttt
im like soooo town
everyone knows that

And not you not wanting me to ISO you…?

I don’t see any reason that Gar is town at the moment
VOTE: Garfooled

[guavagudetama]

@Luka

I can bring up SS’s of abbi from town games town locking people like. 2 seconds into the game. Genuinly isn’t very farfetched for her playstyle.

Yes, I’ve seen that too but her putting May in her towncore “just for you” feels off to me

[guavagudetama]

@Luka

At least for me ive explained why they’re townie imo;

Lemme find this post again
I feel like I already read it and didn’t agree but idr the exact contents

[Luka]

@guavagudetama

Yes, I’ve seen that too but her putting May in her towncore “just for you” feels off to me

Thats fair, usually she doesn’t do it. But she did ask to mason and I normally deny her; this game im accepting as I really dont want to play another town game atm; so I dont have very much meta thoughts.
I do think may has been exceddingly townie though, and if they’re pocketing me its working.

[Luka]

@guavagudetama

And not you not wanting me to ISO you…?

This is kinda TWTBAW, in the sense that I dont think a wolf would openly admit not wanting to be ISOd.

@guavagudetama

I feel like it’s much more likely that, regardless of her alignment, she just didn’t understand that it was a joke

Wouldnt pushing arctic for this instance be better, or do you think they’re being townie in another way?

@guavagudetama

More self meta posting

This instance isn’t self meta; its more saying that that’s not really inherently townie. At the very least, its not self-meta to clear / town read oneself.

@guavagudetama

I don’t like this post
The phrase “if I was town/scum/whatever” has always rubbed me the wrong way
but it’s also probably thoughtless shitposting so

I like to make psots like this alot as scum; calling something scummy without providing reason gives a solid foundation for later scum pushes. Possible guav is doing the same; but at the same time calls it thoughtless and dismisses it.

@guavagudetama

Caitlin getting a lot of heat for asking someone why they think they’ll live today like I do not get it

I do not either.

[guavagudetama]

@Luka

@Garfooled

Honestly the “doesn’t get the joke” thing was more Arctic

I just found their response to Zug weird
But I could see where Arctic was coming from on that

Agree on this matter

@Garfooled

/shrug

Will find out on flip no?
If it happens anyway

Non-chalance on what’s hpapening is townie, not caring about how you’re read.

This is the post I’m thinking of
Tell me if there’s another post that also explains your Gar read

I’ll have to dig further into Caitlin’s ISO for their “response to Zug”
But I still don’t think that Gar’s nonchalance is necessarily townie and I’m not sure I’m going to budge on that given regardless of alignment people aren’t typically nervous about one vote, bar Jarek

@Caitlin

@Zugzwang

ehhhhhh nah

since rand i was planning a post for sod2 advising people to hypoclaim villa

How do you know you are still alive at SoD2?

Oh this duh
Yeah I still. I still don’t see anything wrong with it LOL like it’s kind of a silly question because the answer is they don’t know that
I don’t think Gar (and by extension you because you said you agree) is right about this but I’m not sure how I can further explain why
I just don’t think Caitlin asking a question with a fairly obvious answer makes her scum

[Luka]

I disagree with guavs thoughts, alot of it feels rather pointless. More like trying to find something rather than organically giving thoughts. Ill lower them down to bottom of null / top of scum lean

[Luka]

@Luka

• Garfooled(Like early voting since I never expained this, #87 read good.)

Hypothetically here seems town; just most of there ISO seems relaxed. They’re kind of cruising through the game, not really caring which is more townie behavoir imo. Wolf cares much more about there image / current space of mind, townie does not. That’s my current thoughts on the matter, and I disagree with most of what you sadi being wolfy / scummy. Alot of it is just nai, its the general tone of them that reads town to me.

[Arctic]

I just won a town game where I tunneled one wolf on day 1 until they died on day 2 and shot the other two

Now I need to win a mafia game here

[Garfooled]

It’s on brand for guava to push me as scum btw
They shot me 3x in a row in Wild West

[Arctic]

im laughing too hard at this

[Garfooled]

am I being a silly billy?

[Garfooled]

I’m not caught up, I lost my spot like 2 times so far trying to ISO

[Arctic]

no just the fact they literally shot you every day

[Garfooled]

haha yeah that was pretty funny xd

[Garfooled]

I was low hanging fruit
Would you consider me LHF this game?
If so then, even more on brand