Tales of the Abyss - Town Victory!

[Mr.L]

But you saw this post immediately?!?

[Hazardwaste]

@SultanOfSlam

Has been the aggressive Town Achro that i remember?

Im getting vibes Leafia is me from What was that Demon slayer??

I was Leafia and caught this fast in that game on day 1 as well…

i will so most of sultans opening posts are about games and meta’s i have no info or connection with so i am gonna leave them as such and wait for sultan to explain some of these but it may be a bit to late for that.

@SultanOfSlam

More posts like this please this is the towniest post yove had. I agree in MR. L’s vote is terrible.

0 reason and hasnt said basically anything yet.

@SultanOfSlam

Your pressure isnt all that much though like 5 outta 18?! Thats not anything to create this much reaction. If youre town take a deep breath and hunt 5 isnt much to defend this much over is it?

Sultan is trying to relax Leafia here a bit in public mind you. which could present the idea that this is A. townsfolk trying to get a better read of someone under the scum spotlight without the pressure or alternative voting. B. (unlikely) Performance assignment 1b.

@SultanOfSlam

HazardousWaste is underwhelming i feel like they have said alot but have nothing that really stands out. Some commentary on Lea’s achro vote but also said they didnt read it fully.

but correct. i tend to avoid alot of day 1’s cause it usually is only social shit which is something i really need to work on with reading.

and at this point my power went out…. i am using my phone now so i can’t do iso’s but i will try to find a local network to finish sultans. Unless someone can tell my how to multi quote on phone

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

it gave me a notification

[Mr.L]

Oh, right. I’m not used to this site. Carry on with your scumminess

[Kiiruma]

@Hazardwaste

seems like a town based response tbh, and it is a pretty weird tier list for kiiruma… man i am gonna have to re read kiiruma now to clear my thoughts.

This is literally the same list I have done in multiple games be it in town or scum games and you know it.
The fact that you’re saying this though makes me wonder what you’re up to this game.
You should know better.

[Hazardwaste]

Not the list itself buddy. The reads

[Hazardwaste]

I know you do the same type of list every game. I am talking bout your reads with a flipped town in 4, a flipped scum in 8 and most of todays scum reads in your town leans

[Kiiruma]

It’s interesting to think about.
Yet do I defend a scumbuddy as hard as (in the world I’m evil) I did D1?
I think you’ll find I’ve not done that before in these games.
And bare in mind that Leafia is but a mafia goon, one who was doomed to flip with little room to doubt.

[Hazardwaste]

Thats a fair defence. Imma still read ya iso again if you dont mind tho. But i like that defence. But it only really check off why Leafia is in 8

[Kiiruma]

Of course, you can feel free to go ahead. After all, you reading me might help me to think more on yourself.

[Hazardwaste]

As i said last game “your read on me helps me read you”. Glad we have that both in Common XD

[Zenon]

@Hippopablompoyeetus

Like this for example.

Its just saying im wrong, its more focused on being correct then saying why me being wrong makes me mafia.

I think you have me in poe but recognize im probably town odds are.

Your wrong but why are you wrong and why are you pushing the person i think is towniest in the game outside myself?

Is that wolfy? Would i think it was wolfy?

[Prophylaxis]

@sulit

Being objective (not trying to ATE here and sorry if it comes off like that)

I’ve just gone back to school after vacation and since it’s nearing the end of the year I’d say I have a lot of added stress and work and obviously less time to play the game…

I wouldn’t say I’m not having fun, it’s more that I have to try harder to balance my time with this game and schoolwork so my stress because of that may? be coming off as I’m not having fun.

So, I am enjoying the game and I am glad I joined, I just wish I had more time to play and Less other things to worry about: do with that what you will.

OK, this all makes sense. I just feel like you fit in a similar player archetype to me (enjoys rolling town, does not enjoy rolling scum, and if you asked me the best way to read me I would say to try and figure out if I’m having fun or not)

Where is your head at for Today? Who do you want to execute? Who are your strong townreads (besides May)?

[SultanOfSlam]

I would say your analys is pretty standard me tbh this is how i play out things i post my thoughts aloud basically.

That Achro comment is accurate that i was definitely starting to see the familiar Achro that i know from Gamefaq when Achro is town.

For you i was hoping you would say more and i was content with your responses and such to that.

I thought Leafia looked awkward for being so annoied at pressure when there really was none. And helped me think yeah this is probably scum

But like Mr.L and i discussed earlyer we were okay with Leafia lynch and were off doing our own gambits and traps and that’s what made me feel good about Mr. L beacuse that is typical for Mr. L TO DO as town on Gamefaq

[sulit]

I think Frost is the best exe based on Achro’s final words and their play early into the day, I’m just (trying) to take the day to get my reads together and figure out where I’m at.

I definitely would not say May is a strong townread, more of a townlean btw.

Besides that, you and Zenon are probably my strongest townreads, followed by my lighter townreads (Garfooled, Marluna, Sultan, Mr. L, May, Magnus), leaving my POE to be Lea, Frost, Hazard, Eli, Kiiruma, Hippo, and IGCD right now/

Archo’s read and this:

@Zenon

I think that Marluna is town based on me and Achro setting similar things in our early reads and Leafia spew and just general vibes

kinda turned me over on Marluna, but I may reevaluate it later.- Both Zenon and Achro seem to know Marluna better than me and have (had) very strong townreads on them.

[Zenon]

Fuck it

If a hammer happens i don’t even care we are stagnating

VOTE: Frost

[Zenon]

Night night

[Prophylaxis]

VOTE: Unvote

Would prefer not to hammer early today

[IfGodCouldDie]

Alright, just finished work. Ive been driving all day so i have to catch up from 1950, is there anything significant that has happened since then i should be aware of?

[sulit]

as for May,

I don’t think their inactivity is AI for them, and it’s something I tried to monopolize on to push May last game when I was mafia.

The thing that stands out to me about May is their treatment of me.

Last game I OWNED them L + ratio and they recognized this post game and acknoledged they wanted to do better

@May

However I was still a significant amount Owned by Sulit. I’m bad at recognizing when cases on me are in bad faith because I love being sus

@May

I even SAW that the push was BAD and INCONSISTENT I used my ONE QUESTION to go “your read on me is hailstoning so bad” and then I discarded it. I’ll get better at recognizing it in the fguture. I love when mafia games teach me lessons if I didn’t get a significant lesson this game I’d be so mad thank you Sulit

And I think this mindset is something they carry into this game, and something I think May goes about in a towny way. I’m not sure that May would even remember this or keep this in mind as a wolf, faking trying to solve me.

@May

sulit is towny for being the first on the Leafia wagon, and I like that ping on Garfooled there, I think.

@May

I’m vaguely cautious of you, but I’ve also reviewed and re-analyzed that game we played a million times. I’m obsessed with self-improvement. Having that wolfgame fresh in my mind makes me feel more likely to be able to read you well, not less. I know exactly what I’m looking for.

@May

Sulit still towny I’m feeling pretty strong changes from last game? It’s possible she’s the type of player who can Toss playstyle up in the air every day and night but for now they can the town read.

I believe May here that they tried to be more prepared to read me and I think it is towny they are looking for similarities between my play this game and the last.

Something that made my heart hurt to push on May last game is that they kept on making really towny posts that made wolf!me sad to push them for because they were like, pretty towny posts, and I’m seeing ones with the same vibes this game EX:

@May

I think but her posts as of late are trending up for me so townread for now Achro’s probably coaching her or some shit whatever problem for later

@May

Onething about Leafia is that she has been tol d many times that she TMIs her teammates and such, so, like… it’s certainly something she’s aware of and can work to change. She also ddin’t really have a distinctive line of… singular focus, pushing for anyone in particular, she was reaching out for any vote she thought she could get. I don’t feel the vibes of either the hard bus she goes for with many teammates (though the “oh, someone suspected my teammates, better run to agree” is something that couldstill be presentI want to lookfor that in particular)

@May

It makes me more cautious of those townreads she clearly gave consciously, especially given you r pile there contains me and one of my higher townreads. However I very much think the more subconscious/passive attempts to appeal to people are valuable & probably fairly reliable

@May

. I struggle to motivate myself when I’m not dissatisfied with the game state as soon as there’s some good tunnels up I disappear

Thoughts like “Achro is prolly coaching her in wolf chat lol,” the paranoia about Leafia learning to control her spew more, pinged me as towny, and I think that May’s semi-frustration with the game-state yesterday was genuine.

So, at this point in the ISO, you can imagine me scrolling through May’s iso toward EOD, thinking they’re pretty towny so far.

And then this is where I realize I might be wrong, and mistaken, and quite possible owned by May.

Summary

@May

Actually I am dissatisfied with this game state Leafia wagon is too runaway. Hold on BRB grabbing a scumcase

@May

Uhhh Leafia is plenty near her scum Mets but I also fear the you know Leafia thing.

@May

This is the point where I usually go “consensus sucks, regardless of how wolfy the top wagon is, start a counterwagon and see where it goes”

@May

I’d like to extend this question to everyone voting her, actually: if not Leafia, who would you want out?

@May

nstant OMGUS is towny for you, I think. You can have that read placed on pause for that. Moving on. VOTE: Achro

@May

dear god “do I vote town Achro or wolf Leafia” is maybe one of the funniest questions of all time and highly personality dependent

I think the counterwagon thought process could be towny??

But the way May goes about it makes me feel weird and scared

@May

FOR THE RECORD I did not actually want Achro out D1 he self resolves every time I would have swapped my vote to Leafia had it come down to it I just like counterwagon gaming

Especially because this is their defense? Like yeah I would have voted for the wolf EOD if it looked close! Of course!

Idk

I like the rest of their ISO but their treatment of Leafia is weird?

But I liked Leafia’s treatment of May?

@sulit

Both myself and May had 1 vote on us at the time, and if Leafia is trying to search for viable counterwagons, wagons with votes already on them is probably her best bet. I think May is the most towny from this, because Leafia voted May at a time where Archo has one vote and there was no real counter wagon. Also, Leafia calls on others to vote May with her.

So I think overall I still find May more towny than not but the confidence in my read has now decreased significantly