Tales of the Abyss - Town Victory!

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

I think just kill frost today cuz lol sheep dead v

[Prophylaxis]

I would agree, yes. What makes you think I’m a wolf hellbussing Leafia though as opposed to town who found similarities between Leafia’s wolf play in this game compared to others?

WRT what wolves were doing: I think it’s likely that the wolves could have simply been doing nothing. In the world where May/Frost are wolves, they certainly were not doing a whole lot.

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

Im not pushing you anytime soon tbh, im just saying this to explain i had somewhat good reasons to sus you in a wolf leafia world, and i wasnt just shading leafias accusers to save them.

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

Because part of zenons argument that im mafia is i sussed leafias main pushers

[Zenon]

@Hippopablompoyeetus

Explain to me why im mafia as if i was 5 without using any buzzwords pls

Soft defending a wolf early while leaving yourself many ways out of it so you can claim ignorance is textbook wolfy.

You game played today exactly how I’d expect you too if I’m right.

[Hazardwaste]

@Kiiruma

I know him from blood on the clocktower and letting someone lead is something he enjoys while he stays in the background if he’s an important thing. If he were of lesser importance (A mafia goon perhaps) he might be a tad more chaotic.

I do agree but that’s usually dependent on if I role demon or minion. minion I will edge on the more chaotic side and demons is when i back up a bit cause I know if I die I lose the game for my team as well. (so partially right). in turn the more important it is for me to live the more silent and follower i am in BOTC.

[Hazardwaste]

@Kiiruma

sleep is important and it’s something which your body sometimes might not cooperate with ya for.

hypocrite ANYWAY Readig null iso time

[Zenon]

@Hippopablompoyeetus

I mean in a game sense id think at least one mafia would see achro burning vanilla leafia and instantly join in at earliest opportunity. Do you not agree?

Why? Leafia was savable at many many points why commit?

Also also…Proph is town

[Mr.L]

Where are you in the thread? When you were asked to look at posts 1-100 on day 1, were these all you looked at or are you caught up with every post at this point?

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

Yeah that’s all I looked at

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

I have no clue what’s happened today

[Hazardwaste]

Hazard fixes his nulls

@Mr.L

Oh I voted Leafeon firstly because I am fully supportive of Achro’s hype machine and the quoted post from their last scum game is a good catch. Secondly, the post where Leafia said “at least this early wagon proves me town” just sounds like a BS reasoning. Maybe they truly believe this, but I certainly disagree with the logic and have a hard time believing they really think everyone voting them is scum.

seems instantly unalligned with leafia out the bat with how much of his opening messages were “I dont like leafia” and one of which even being a vote, idk if a scum would instantly make one of these plays within the first 12 hours but i mean i feel like its heavily unlikely

@Mr.L

I echo this @Leafia

Also lol when i typed that @, i saw there’s an account called “LeafiaButWorse”

this comment is something i will probably repost just so i can look back at my reads. but i dont mind Mr.L’s response to why he said this.

@Mr.L

I don’t like this question, because me and Lea have already said he’s playing extremely differently, but that it doesn’t necessarily speak to his alignment. And i feel like you saw that and are prompting me to say “yes he’s playing differently” so that you have a good reason to go after him.

No I just don’t read anything till too late in the game and i wanted to help in some way cause i feel useless and a waste of space but i do feel like you took an innocent question of “he is your friend what are you thoughts on him” and twisted just a bit to much. but you did have what i think is minor suspicon on me

@Mr.L

Ew, self aware.

here. so it could just be a travel on response

@Mr.L

Do keep in mind I asked for a “suitable replacement” for you. I’m going to need a lot more than this on why May is scum. I know you don’t have many posts left, but this is not convincing enough and even you dont sound very convinced just one post ago, as you asked May to show up so you could figure them out.

confirms what he said earlier about his post in 1083

@Kiiruma

I’m glad that you asked.

The Kiiruma reads list so far:
10
9
8 - Zenon, Leafia
7 - Magnus, Prophy, May
6 - SultanOfSlam, Hippo, Eliza, Frost, Marluna
5 - Hazard, sulit, Garfooled, Lea
4 - Mr. L, Achromatic
3 - IfGodCouldDie
2
1

@Mr.L

This list looks so random to me that I cant even figure out which side is supposed to be townreads and which sides scum reads

@Mr.L

Firstly, I was catching up in order and responded to this when I saw it, but it doesnt take away from the fact that it sparked that kind of reaction from me. I see your explanation now for the Leafia read. I’d like some reasoning for ranking May so high. What have they done to get this high on your list? Why is Achro so low?

seems like a town based response tbh, and it is a pretty weird tier list for kiiruma… man i am gonna have to re read kiiruma now to clear my thoughts.

@Mr.L

Obviously I didn’t literally know, but I was sure enough to vote her by the time Achro pulled up posts from a previous scum game where she sounded exactly the same. And I only thought she was scummier every time she posted. I was voting her all day and only got off in the final 20 minutes because I was sure we were lynching Leafia and wanted to cause some chaos seeing what would happen if I offered up May as a counter wagon. (Noticeably, more people bit on Achro than on May)

I do feel like this is a decent response! I don’t see why scum would leap on to a smaller wagon which was started by a dude who had no clue what the fuck he was doing rather then a slowly growing one 3 players away from popping

congrats Mr.L you have moved back to town lean

[Mr.L]

That was underwhelming.

All of today Wolf is coming off as extremally fake/scummy to me and the only hesitation I have is the people saying “Well this is just what Wolf is like”, which is the same thing a bunch of people said about Leafia. And hey they were wrong about Leafia.

Reading Frostwolf VS Lea, Wolf is bringing up Lea every time they post something with substance, which makes me think he really is trying to get her lynched and I dont think they are aligned. I can also understand Lea’s explanation in the big wall post to explain her day 1, and why she didnt lead the Achro counter lynch harder

Lea TOWN
Frost SCUM

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

I dont think u really think im mafia tbh

[Hazardwaste]

Marluna null read time

@Marluna

VOTE: Achromatic

Usually it isn’t me, who puts up the CW, (I usually keep away myself from the drama D1) but Achro’s reasoning doesn’t sit with me.

Especially the OMGUS part, when Achro was the first to OMGUSing Leafia, but they just twisted the fact, literally few posts prior…

First vote on achro defending leafia. could be w/w

@Marluna

I will be the devil’s advacate here.

But she clearly stated her opinion, when she disliked the townreads on me, also if you read anything, she had read as well…

more w/w possible interactions

@Marluna

UNVOTE

From the point Achro isn’t focusing solely on Leafia, their posts are more bearable.

I don’t believe Leafia’s claim.
They are multiple scenarios, where mafia doesn’t fear being shot by the SK. (Especially, if they want the NK to waste their strongman bullet.)

got of her the following day, maybe went past a point of no return?

@Marluna

Convinced me enough.

VOTE: Leafia

ends up voting her final 24 hours.

@Marluna

I need an explanation on Hazard, reading his ISO, he was just parroting Achro most of the time.

i mean thats pretty on par with me. i think the only time i wasnt someone else’s “sidekick” was in need for speed where i had to hold the wheel for town for a small bit (nearly lost us the game XD) but i kinda then “sidekicked” magnus when he was replaced. @magnus can confirm.

i am still not sure why marluna is in alot of people’s Town reads… is there some sort of meta or vibe i am not getting from these posts?

[Zenon]

@Mr.L

That was underwhelming.

All of today Wolf is coming off as extremally fake/scummy to me and the only hesitation I have is the people saying “Well this is just what Wolf is like”, which is the same thing a bunch of people said about Leafia. And hey they were wrong about Leafia.

Reading Frostwolf VS Lea, Wolf is bringing up Lea every time they post something with substance, which makes me think he really is trying to get her lynched and I dont think they are aligned. I can also understand Lea’s explanation in the big wall post to explain her day 1, and why she didnt lead the Achro counter lynch harder

Lea TOWN
Frost SCUM

What if i just like voted Frost and stopped saying that lol

[Zenon]

@Hippopablompoyeetus

I dont think u really think im mafia tbh

Why not?

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

@Zenon

Why? Leafia was savable at many many points why commit?

Also also…Proph is town

Like this for example.

Its just saying im wrong, its more focused on being correct then saying why me being wrong makes me mafia.

I think you have me in poe but recognize im probably town odds are.

[Hippopablompoyeetus]

Anywhoot enough defensing myself, rest of day ill spend reading other peeps

[SultanOfSlam]

@Frostwolf103

What are your top reads