Understand that, from my perspective, the consensus PoE is clearly incorrect. It is me and one other player. I am hunting for an unwarranted townread. My posts will reflect that.
Please do not refer to ongoing games for reasons of maintaining integrity, even ones where the subject matter is deceased.
Thank you.
I already got the same message from Chloe in a PM. Sorry about that. Going to go on timeout to play Rodent Warriors on my Switch now. Will be back before EoD though. 
bystander posts
I have difficulty reading bystander, and looking through her behavior I canât find anything that I can sincerely call a wolftell. This is not the most proactive wolfread in the world. It feels slightly difficult to pair her with Magnus from her end, though not impossible, and certainly not out of the range of intentional efforts to unpair two players. I will have to check from Magnusâs side as well.
bystander taking the easier route of pairing me and Garfooled is something I find wolfy, but I struggle to determine what I would see from a t!bystander that would help me more strongly townread her. From my perspective, the easiest team to make is bystander/Magnus, as it does not require me upending my expectations of any given player. In a difficult game, though, upending expectations is often necessary, and that feels like a lazy answer to settle on.
If I am to find wolves outside of the bystander/Magnus/Zugzwang trio, that means a player is overperforming my estimation of them.
Leafia has had so many casually, subtly towny moments, and crucially, she does not read like a player who is currently playing her heart out. It is the fact that she has been on the lower side in post volume and on the lower side in elaborate cases and explanations that makes these towny moments feel more realistic. This is a big reason why she has been a top townread of mine for so long. She does not feel like she is trying to fight her way out of this game. She feels effortless.
Garfooled has a similar energy. Talking about not being caught up, promising to âcontribute laterâ, and making posts with very softly-pushed reads that do not read as if they are agenda, these are the kinds of things that make it feel like Garfooled is not playing a high-effort game. If Garfooled is wolfing, it is while intentionally trying very hard to seem low-effort, which is a strategy that I have seen players employ with success, but not necessarily an intuitive one. It usually arises only when players have a specific set of meta tells, and I do not know enough about Garfooledâs history to know whether this is the case. I donât think this is impossible, and frankly, as I look back over Garfooledâs posts to explain why I feel this way, a lot of the indicators I was using to make this read may not be present. I will go over this in more detail later.
tutuu is clearly playing in a high-effort manner, regardless of his alignment. However, looking at his posts, it is still somewhat difficult to read him as a wolf. They are so high-effort that they run into the issue of no longer being productive: at some point, you just run into questions on why you have not been nightkilled, or why you have not caught a wolf yet. I would know.
I initially wrote this post intending to upend my past reads somewhat, but having reviewed everybody twice over, I still believe the groupings I penciled out earlier. Garfooled is a more likely wolf than tutuu or Leafia, in my opinion. Magnus and Zugzwang are in a strange, similar place, where I find them independently towny and yet easy to wolfread within the context of this particular game, with Zugzwang slightly better off than Magnus.
Thinking about it, the easiest wolfteam for me to theorize might actually be bystander/Garfooled. Does this mean it is the best theory? No, it does not. It is the one I find the least mental resistance to, but its members are also the ones who have simply tried the least. I will read both sides for partnerships now.
I could be incredibly cheap here and claim that âif you were to be townâ comes from a wolf who is talking to their partner.
This also seems a little bit too easily said, like it comes from somebody with undue confidence. However, I donât think this is a very strong read on my part. It means that I am not willing to use bystanderâs early cases on Garfooled to discount their partnership, but it does not mean that I think it is especially likely overall.
The wolfread on Garfooled is the only confident wolfread, perhaps the only wolfread at all, that bystander expresses all game. It indicates a different treatment that I can see as partnered. I am not discounting this as a potential team.
Leafia t
tutuu lt
Zugzwang lt
Magnus n
Garfooled n
Bystander lw
After some thought, I might actually rearrange my reads like this. I liked the way Zugzwang confronted me, though, again, I do not discount it coming from a wolf. I have not read Magnus very closely yet.
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The more I think of this post and
This sentence, the more I feel like the first one TMIs me town because you donât suggest killing someone that you believe is a villager to prove that you arenât paired with them and the second one feels like trying to set up a future misexe when the first person flips town.
VOTE: Magnus
I should know. I utilized the same strategy myself in my first game on the old site. Insurgency was the game in question and I was a wolf. I think Magnus pretty much spews me v if he flips wolf from this too. Note he didnât suggest flipping either Bystander or Rhea. He specifically suggested flipping Rhea, which reads to me of Magnus and Bystander possibly being paired.
The Garfooled posts I am looking through
[quote=âGarfooled, post:638, topic:8397, full:trueâ]
Looking at these posts, a few of my previous reasons to townread Garfooled feel like they are invalid. The way Garfooled handled the end of day, failing to vote for self-preservation, is not something I would say is towny in a game with a vigilante shot. To sacrifice any kind of credibility to avoid being the vote would just mean that Garfooled would immediately get shot the next night. Others have said this is towny. I donât agree.
Similarly, the way I felt like Garfooled was failing to push agenda doesnât quite feel right. Garfooled had a consistent wolfread in Zugzwang, and that was a wolfread that was just a little bit counter to the general consensus in a way that makes it a very effective agenda push. Focusing on one wolfread and a few townreads isnât a terrible strategy as a wolf.
On the other hand⌠well, my read here flips every time I reread Garfooled. Sometimes I scroll through and wonder how on earth I could ever wolfread this content, and sometimes I scroll through and think itâs easily wolfy. The signs that Garfooled might be town come down to perspective, self-reflection, and natural reactions, and whether those are fakeable for a given player is a question of personality, which I am not the most qualified to assess here. I have never played with Garfooled before.
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These posts in particular are something I have been thinking about a lot, because what alignment they indicate depends so heavily on a given playerâs mindset. Almost always, wolves are the ones who think about how they are coming across more often. I have seen plenty of players âTMI themselves wolfâ, taking cases on themselves much more seriously than they tend to do as town, and there is an easy reading here of a w!Garfooled knowing for a fact that people have good reason to wolfread them. Self-awareness is classically wolfy for a reason.
On the other hand, this is not something a lot of wolves like to show in public. A nervous wolf will frequently be far too filtered to ever express the kind of things that Garfooled is saying here, and people who know the others around them frequently jump on self-awareness as a tell will only do this kind of thing as town. I do not think this environment is one that is particularly heavy on such tells, though.
Currently, I am swinging toward wolfreading Garfooled, though I have swung back and forth many times and I will likely swing back again. I wonder how Magnus/Garfooled looks as a team.
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Oh I feel like Iâm being pulled from all sides like those medieval torture devices 
I need some time to think whoâs pocketing me. I know some of you fuckers are
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This unending stream of motivation to send your thoughts into an unhearing vacuum is especially fascinating given what I know, because this doesnât align with my own thoughts and yet your progression is plainly visible as being logical. How odd.
Bystander townread Zugzwang in (#474) with no progression; and Zugzwang provided poor reasoning to townread Bystander as well in (#194). So this is a reasonable pool to draw from in the instance that youâre good-aligned: My micro reasons to trust Zugzwang include the fact he went towards great efforts to decipher myself based on minute phrasing instead of a standard accusation; demonstrated a creatively rational spirit even so early as the first day instead of lolcatting as Iâd expect from a securely positioned w!Zug; and asking if we feared him felt like an unnecessary bait for an evil to make.
(Firstly; they, please.)
Secondly; I challenged Bystander right off the bat while others townread her. I did not expressly shove Bystander off a cliff because I accredited Tutuuâs townread towards her, but I had no reason to shade her at all in a Vigilante setup (and I demonstrably understood the setup theory). In return, Bystander grew heated towards me in a fashion that wouldnât necessarily occur between premeditated theatre. Pairing me with Bystander doesnât really make sense, imo.
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i dont know what to tell you
Iâve been trying to get into mafia, a 10p game felt like something I could handle
but every time Iâve been trying to get into a game
it turns out like this
the same
Iâm procrastinating hard
I think if we had a mafia shot + my recent TRs were still alive
Iâd feel more motivated
Interestingly, in the anonymous game we played together, Magnus did not directly question their partners, Woodie and Wormwood. They questioned me, a townie, directly (I was Willow in this game), but only talked to their partners about other players. Additionally, when they did talk about their partners, it was exclusively to townread them or pair townies with them.
Don't Starve: Anonymous
[quote=âWebber, post:1328, topic:7635, full:trueâ]
Wurt initially formed a townread on Woodieâs slot for that first readlist, until Wes spoke out about the AI generated content. This inspired Wurt to reverse their read and vote the aforementioned player, under the preconception that it was an evil-indicative action and that Wes also believed it so. Once clarified on the matter, Wurt loses confidence in the wagon and expresses an intention to jump ship onto Wesâ wagon of choice, or for either of Wilson or Wortox to die without strongly advocating for either one. To me, this progression just feels like Wurt was trying to satisfy Wes and that was all.
Summary
At least some of this is clearly an intentional playstyle decision from Magnus rather than a lack of ability, but I do think the awkwardness around their partners is genuine. They townread their partners, but they didnât really treat their partners like townreads in a natural way, nor did they try to boost their partnersâ positions in indirect ways, like asking them questions in the thread to encourage their reads. It makes me question the idea of a Magnus/Garfooled team because of the interactions between Magnus and Garfooled early on.
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I saw Tutuu struggling with them earlier so hereâs my PSA.
We didnât have the opportunity to communicate much in scumchat, due to Woodie being newer and inexperienced while Wormwood was initially busy before being replaced. Our schedules didnât line up very often to align or coordinate our thoughts in public, so the chance wasnât always there.
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@Tutuu why is your nickname âOrigamiâ?
VOTE: bystander. Iâm slightly more conflicted about declaring w!Rhea. Last night I was relatively assured that was the world but posing Zug / Bystander seems like a technically valid alternative so Iâm obliged to hear it out for numerical reasons.
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katze or orange changed it due to cookie thread shenanigans between me and mollylikesorigami
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Does that mean we could fold you up like paper into the shape of a unicorn?
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