The Amazing Digital Circus Vigilante ten-er - GAME OVER, MAFIA WIN

[tutuu]

yessssss

[tutuu]

VOTE: Bystander

[Leafia]

Sorry about that. I’ll take that into consideration too.

How did Tutuu change his name to Origami?

[tutuu]

Rhea is playing out of her mind if she’s a wolf although I wouldn’t put it past her. She’s great

i don’t think my reasons to townread bystander were bad but i think everyone else is towning it up super hard in comparison

@Zugzwang do you have any updates in your reads? im curious about bystander specifically. if everybody is scumreading her then we should probably just chop her?

[Leafia]

VOTE: Bystander

Keeping Magnus in mind too.

[Magnus]

@Leafia

How did Tutuu change his name to Origami?

Mods have the ability to change account names (like what they did for Eliza, this has the risk of breaking message archives) and to apply nicknames (which doesn’t override pings or the visible name in the account menu).

Katze or Orange, one of them applied the nickname to Tutuu.

[The-Showrunners]

bystander (3): Magnus, tutuu, Leafia

Not Voting (4): bystander, Garfooled, Rhea, Zugzwang

OP has been updated.

[The-Showrunners]

Hammer is at 4 votes

[Magnus]

The factional kill is now mandatory, for anyone who didn’t see the change.

UNVOTE . Everyone’s had their say but hammering somebody who isn’t around feels mean.

[Leafia]

Ah. Wasn’t aware of that.

[Magnus]

It’s some fun trivia. Makes for amusing pranks.

[Leafia]

Gotcha.

[Zugzwang]

mmmmmmm
some of this I can see
though I still don’t get why you seem to have the same attitude towards me on D1 + why you seem to be fine with way lighter reasons for clearing Leafia

[Zugzwang]

(also yeah I see the pings and stuff; reading up first tho)

[Zugzwang]

@Zugzwang

why you seem to be fine with way lighter reasons for clearing Leafia

@Rhea

Leafia has had so many casually, subtly towny moments, and crucially, she does not read like a player who is currently playing her heart out. It is the fact that she has been on the lower side in post volume and on the lower side in elaborate cases and explanations that makes these towny moments feel more realistic. This is a big reason why she has been a top townread of mine for so long. She does not feel like she is trying to fight her way out of this game. She feels effortless.

oh

@Rhea

After some thought, I might actually rearrange my reads like this. I liked the way Zugzwang confronted me, though, again, I do not discount it coming from a wolf. I have not read Magnus very closely yet.

what about the way I confronted you makes it better than the other posts, which you said might be town-indicative but not in this game / from me?

[Leafia]

Hopefully the low activity here right now is a good sign.

[Rhea]

@Zugzwang

what about the way I confronted you makes it better than the other posts, which you said might be town-indicative but not in this game / from me?

There is nothing unique or better about it. I still don’t think the confrontation is entirely out of your wolfrange. But it is another data point of something I find townier than not, and it was a good reminder that my standards for you have been much higher than my standards for the other players in the game, despite the fact that I don’t know you all that much better than the others.

The confrontation did not make you think you were that much townier, but it did remind me that I was likely underestimating other players.

[Zugzwang]

@tutuu

@Zugzwang do you have any updates in your reads? im curious about bystander specifically. if everybody is scumreading her then we should probably just chop her?

while gone the thought occured to me that Bystander is kinda the slot who everyone wolfreads / has in poe, but isn’t really being voted

• Firstly, we have the player quietly in the POE but isn’t really pushed . What makes this archetype so important is that it has a high chance of flipping wolf. Unless you’re facing an incredibly strong and coordinated team, there’s probably going to be at least one wolf player who just isn’t as able as the rest of their team to influence the gamestate for whatever reason. Examples of this player archetype can be found in the two most recent Champs Finales as of this writing: DaBackpack in Season 6 (before he fake claimed), and Secondhand Revenant in Season 5 (before he subbed out). Both players were part of strong mafia teams that were successful at pushing through mislynches, but due to RL circumstances, neither was able to keep up with the posting and found themselves dropping in the POE as a result. Despite being consensus “probably just a wolf?” per the thread, they were mostly briefly touched on in reads lists and comments and then ignored in favor of more pressing targets. If a player looks like this in a powerwolf game and is consensus wolfread without ever really being seriously pushed, this player could be the key to blowing the game wide open.

-https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/24382-22-Stopping-the-Juggernaut-(by-GeneralHankerchief)

Unsure whether I should still apply this read given that this is a 10 player game, with 2 wolves (as opposed to the ~17 player games this article was intended for), and Bys does have votes now.
But it does make me see the argument that if Bys is town, then wolves have an easy route of just pushing them over, which doesn’t look like what was going on earlier today

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(as somewhat implied by the above) I stopped TRing Bystander partway through the night, because once I TRed Gar from EOD and had the Someone flip, they had less in their favor than everyone but Rhea

[Zugzwang]

@tutuu

@Zugzwang do you have any updates in your reads? im curious about bystander specifically. if everybody is scumreading her then we should probably just chop her?

as for others - I had a bit of paranoia on you near the beginning of the day
because you didn’t die, and I thought you looked a lot like the vig too
but then you’ve made all these posts:

@tutuu

Damn

Do you guys think I made myself too obvious? With my vig claim at start of the game

I thought that it made me look like such a VT that it would maybe make the wolves think there’s no way i’d be that obvious as VT and that i’m actually the vig. that post is way funnier if i was the vig and i like being funny so i was hoping the wolves would think that. so i was on a level 2 strategy

if they predicted that and found me as VT nonetheless that’s level 3 and then fair enough - props for their correct read. but if they just operated on level 1 that’s slightly peeving like imagine me trying to think multiple steps ahead only to then “congratulations, you played yourself”

@tutuu

i had a temporary tinfoil that zug and magnus are both mafia and they’re motivating each other and laughing in wolf chat at writing all of these essays and dunking on us but that is probably just my emotional reaction of not wanting to get dunked on / feel embarassed / get rekt. logically zug + mag doesn’t make sense and they deserve to win (maybe?) if they’re w/w. atlhough we also have a win con obv so im not saying like we shouldnt try to catch them if they’re w/w but maybe that’s a concern for f5/f3, at least for now i think its more logical to look into rhea / gar / bystander. idk, maybe mag is mafia, zug, i still feel like they’re town but i haven’t re-evaluated after those town flips. i heavily thought pandora is mafia during the night. let me think

@tutuu

pandora + rhea made so much sense to be the team why wasn’t that the team

@tutuu

i need to re-evaluate leafia too oh fuck my life man. im feeling uneasy lol. none of my townreads are rock-solid anymore

maybe i was too generous on my leafia townread?
i think magnus is mega town but zug has been suspecting them for a while? am i supposed to be sheeping zug here?
zug feels mega towny but his actions makes sense from a wolf pov who can just sit there and entertain himself while we all eat each other?
bystander:

@tutuu

Oh fuck me man why did I say this. I should have kept quiet about it and not give her an out if she’s a wolf. Towning is tough man you need to like … you can’t be fully transparent. Although it’s nice to be. But you need to think like an interrogator, you need to be a little bit evil

@tutuu

Oh I feel like I’m being pulled from all sides like those medieval torture devices

I need some time to think who’s pocketing me. I know some of you fuckers are

where your town mindset shines through really hard
I read through you in Baldur’s Gate and Hazbin Hotel, and you had way less of this stuff

[Leafia]

Thinking more and more that Bystander just flips w here.