The Binding of Isaac Mad17 - Game Over (Terminal Lucidity) [Mafia Win]

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#6921

Ok here we go:

Maybe I’m confbiased but I think it’s mildly wolfy that Bionic doesn’t listen to others’ self-meta and yet she’s giving wolf meta on herself about how she busses more often than not? Someone do a sanity check with me pls

In this readlist eve is her teammate
So she distances from eve by putting them in her scumreads but then votes the unpartnered name, kiiruma
Which imo closely resembles how she’s kept saying Frost is wolfy but hasn’t actually committed to his wagon until today

Ok so bystander is kinda right she did bus in this game
But but but
She also paired townies with her wolf partners (namely I saw a post where she said to kill ghidora if Lee was a wolf, and Lee was a wolf)

And I’m thinking now, if I retract the Frost shield and we say bystander could hypothetically be w/w with Frost, who’s she pairing with him?

She is tonally the same in April Showers so I kinda think she can keep up the tone posting but maybe if it’s true that she defaults to bussing it means that my townreads have been wrong and not that my scumread on bystander is wrong.

Note that anonygoose said in that game that bystander’s reads were bad but her tone was towny lol

And this is how she defends herself as a wolf

She also drops her townlean on Bionic (town) and then votes her partner (Lee) but keeps pushing ghidora more for being hypothetically paired with Lee, then moves her vote to ghidora and says it’s because they’re w/w with Lee

She votes eve (partner) at some point, I think the start of the next day? with no context

So in conclusion, yeah she does distance and get very close to bussing, but she seems to prefer scumreading her partners and dancing dangerously close to bussing them without actually doing so.
I think it fits really conveniently with her treatment of Frost.

@Luxy @sheepsaysmeep @Creature @Apocryphal I hate having to ping but here’s my verdict so you see it. I think bystander is w/w with Frost which also means Phraze’s handling of her slot is utter poop.

@bystander you have a chance to refute my points, so go ahead if you have counterarguments. I will listen because I still want to hear them. And on that note, what’s your take on Lee this game? Since you’ve wolfed with him, do you think he’s playing similarly to April Showers or is he townier here?

#6922

Yeah I figured it was an accident lol, I went to find the game thread and accidentally clicked on sign-ups lmao

#6923

I might actually buy your Lee case cause I was looking at April Showers and wondering about him lol

#6924

But if so I think it’s super crappy we likely lunched the only lowposter who was actually town??

#6925

Irrelevant to current reads but yeah

#6926

I’m tempted to call it a team of:

bystander/Frost/Phraze/Lee

Counterarguments are more than welcome, I’m not rushing into this and tbh I still think Phraze should die

I’m like more than a little paranoid that Bionic/Luxy are wolves getting away with… idk what they’re getting away with, but like I asked myself why the cop didn’t die even if he was PoE’d and I don’t really have an answer other than that he’s a wolf

So yeah there’s still a chance Bionic is a wolf instead of one of the other names
There’s also a chance Luxy is a wolf if Bionic is a wolf, but wouldn’t touch him today regardless
And I’m throwing Frost into my PoE because of bystander’s treatment of him and not because I think Frost has been wolfy, but we can agree to disagree
Lee just kinda fits there if it isn’t Bionic, or some shuffling around of names tbh

#6927

Yeah Lee is like in commentary mode with his reads in this game too
I can see it

#6928

…did I miss you guys while I was looking through April Showers? :skull:

#6929

Yeah, I guess I can see that team

#6930

Was distracted making lunch/bringing in groceries/reading the core rulebook for Lancer

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#6931

At any rate I’m locking my townreads because I can’t afford to waver too much

Apo/Sheep/Creature

Luxy

Bionic

Frost/Lee

Bystander/Phraze

Is roughly the order my reads are in
Not actually sure if Frost is under Bionic or if he should actually be under Lee
Or if I just combine those last two tiers
I’m being kinda ungenerous with this but idc

#6932

I’ll take the L if sheep is a wolf, he’s convinced me he’s town actually

#6933

I’m gonna assemble a shelf but I’ll be around

#6934

Yeah, I feel this

#6935

This day has continually been a mess, but I can’t help but feel that my tinfoil on you was horribly wrong
And sheep was probably wrong.

My tunnel on Frost will never end though

#6936

he’s townier here imo. just like very lvl 0 his posting is just better lmao

i’m not gonna force you to read the other wolf games i don’t quite understand what u mean my like dangerously close i usually followed threw in a lot of them

im not w/w with frost

#6937

I agree self-meta ain’t really much valuable because a wolf could easily cherrypick the best points in their favor.

I guess bystander claiming to not listen to self-meta in another game but then proceed to use self-meta here is not really wolfy as sometimes I catch myself making this kind of contradiction as town. Sometimes I say X in one game and then say Y in another.

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#6938

I think I said it earlier that there’s a “rule of two” where wolves put a town and a partner in their bottom wolfreads but then only bother to push the town and ignore the partner.

I don’t know who would be the town and the partner for bystander here. I kinda thought maybe Frost was the town one today. I don’t know who else is being paired with Frost here.

#6939

It seems bystander has only been voting Frost and hasn’t pushed anyone else today. Maybe it can be applied for the previous days though.

#6940

Alright I can imagine a bystander + Frostwolf103 + Phraze wolf world.

That wolf seems a bit wild because then Phraze distanced from bystander by voting them D1 (which sounds very TMI), bystander is now bussing Frostwolf103 and it seems Frostwolf103 is bussing Phraze. Therefore, they’d be forcing w/w wagons to put the other deep?