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[Atlas]

it could give out 2 greenchecks.

[Millium]

@Kiiruma did u target derps yesterday? Idc if u answered this, answer it again

[Triss]

Hm, wonder if OoP means Psy is green then?

[hal]

it’s harmful to town.

[Atlas]

okay, i’ll take your word on it.

[Kiiruma]

I targeted Derps with my day ability.
It’s why Derps claimed to have mech on me but didn’t say too much because Derps didn’t want to give away things to maf.

[Crescent]

It’s negative EV in role madness given how many potential things could exist to circumvent it.

[Kiiruma]

No fucking clue.
Because all I know is the order in which my modifiers got juggled.
I don’t know the order of action resolution too

[Atlas]

i was trying to justify it because i had a hunch
but you’re correct, yes. roleblocker, scum vig, just regular nightkill.

[Millium]

Okay well kiiruma is just never mafia then? If i lose to a bastard mech ill bitch about it post game.

Back to this

VOTE: bean

[Crescent]

Redirection as well. Scum can redirect a weak role onto themselves and frame the person that was supposed to have been targeted.

[idot]

@hal

why

alright let me dissect my early game brain

@hal

@Millium

also because out of pettiness u shoved me into ur wolf leans, yet again, lazy read

what do you mean? you were one of my scumreads (which i made before i actually posted) and you’ve produced no original content or reads of your own still. it was unironicallt one of my most objective and least lazy reads. i didn’t elaborate irt to it because i imagined that you would make your alignment more obvious later

why are you so defensive and attacking my read credibility so quickly? i know that you know that i’m known for my read accuracy

i TR this initially but as more people got angry about playstyles, i decided to NOT to tr or sr people over emotions this game.
tutuu started scumreading you at some point, i don’t remember and Crescent’s constant questioning (not sure if they asked once or twice, or thrice) about why you TR them not being answered quite soon, and the fact that I couldn’t find anything towny about Crescent myself.
(because I am not going to read annoyance over playstyles)

see I’ve been scatterbrained lately for reasons™
so I’m just going to ask you this:
what post made you initially TR Crescent?
I don’t want you to tell me
“oh you wouldn’t understand, tutuu would!”
I want you to help me find you

[Millium]

Like this is just extremely townie in itself, jesus christ people

[Kiiruma]

To specify, the Weak modifier did say about targeting Mafia, would cause me to die.
This means that the Neut isn’t included in my thing.

So even if I were to try and use my ability (Which honestly, I probably won’t because I’m a coward) then I wouldn’t die if I targeted a town and the neut.

[Triss]

Ehhh, I’d view it more as Psy is confirmed if Kiiruma dies and flips town tbh. This could all still be just posturing.

[Atlas]

im just gonna post what i had on frost
i dont think im getting much more from wrongboy

[Millium]

Idc if halz dies, but the chance of them flipping wolf is like 5%, i made up that number, just cause i dont like pretending im good at mafia

[Atlas]

Comparing frost to that one game (he was scum in it, also just d1 cause I'm lazy)

@Frostwolf103

(icet: It’s a joke bc this is a tos based game )

It would be hilarious to see mayor openly claimed with the announcement if you were serious.

@Frostwolf103

Hello Mr.Anderson.

@Frostwolf103

(Rajidae: do we have a postcap?)

@Frostwolf103

Sure thing Zorvo, have you considered at first where we start executing between mafia or jackals?

I have made my mind for optimal play, I hear from your opinion could you share?

@Frostwolf103

@Cyanide

At the time, he only had one game relevant post, and it was a vt claim. I didn’t want to comment on it, for obvious reasons

That can explain not giving a fuck about priority which faction need to get exe’d first

@Frostwolf103

anything, I think the mafia reducing to two numbers prevents them from using 2-for-1 feature. That way, you can prevent potential three deaths. That will require two perfect executions

At current stage, jackal can’t use their NK ability until N2.

What I do agree with Zorvo is that Mafia and Jackals are going to fight each other first, for us town the distinction matters not

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Feedback - he started his early day one with mech jargon (notably, focusing on the jackal [2nd mafia action] instead of the mafia faction, he was 1st mafia), and going on a back and forth with the d1 exe, who later had 4/6 scumreads before her execution, notably not including frost in it.

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@Frostwolf103

Yes, I can imagine the scenario that mafia have to figure out who the traitor is and then vote them out during the night, which the double kill will be available by the following night

@Frostwolf103

Lynching the mafia jackal recruit will also prevents the mafia for using that, I believe.

@Frostwolf103

@Cyanide

Like the mafia has all the informed information on their partners and the uninformed people don’t

That’s partially not true.

jackal know the recruits, recruits know each other, but the recruits don’t know the jackal themselves. As it’s like it’s done in secret.

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Feedback: like… lots of talking about the 2nd mafia faction.

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@Frostwolf103

Chihiro - Not a lot of posts, one of those posts worth mentioning that she’s against mass claiming that Eevee suggested. At this progression, Chihiro is under the radar, this may change past Day 1. No hard evidence that the conversation between Eevee and Chihiro may be linked due not claiming since the link I quoted is posted beyond 24+ hours, therefor in case of town citizen recruit have picked a role, this is done by going against the claiming. This either means just as simple, or to avoid getting conspicuous with each other.

Wazza - Shows promise like the jailor makes Hydra votes Wazza and later reveal they got baited by her. Or should I say got vibed, I don’t think this is either jackal recruit and jackal interaction. It may have fooled me if it did. I can see not a world between Cyanide/Wazza either.

thepigeonnyc - Opening is NAI, not exactly going or against eevee’s mass claim idea, just “Wait so do we want to do this claim. It feels like not much has happened and this can generate reads” That is weird in not good way. Bit worse than Chihiro. Interesting choice of words about Cyanide, does that show pigeon/cyanide recruit world or is this not what this looks like, that Pigeon mentioned that Cyanide could be mafia but not jackal raises eyebrows for me. I am making this scumlean. This is backed up with vote against Cyanide.

Jarek - Another weird opening, with sense of sarcasm I presume. The reaction about Eliza being in towncore by IceT does require me to ask this: @Jarek Are you just feeling jealous that IceT didn’t make you mason with them, but what does that mean to you exactly? The Darth Vader thing didn’t help give me accurate read on this response. The conversation with Zorvo regarding Eevee voting Jarek because of the opener is that Jarek seem to be suspicious with Zorvo as well because he supports Eevee’s push on Jarek, bringing up Icet’s comment of Eevee being town because of the push. That’s not why IceT is townreading Eevee for that reason. But because Cyanide asks what IceT know in the thread that time. I am willing to make him townlean for that.

Kabazame - The opener reminds me back from True Majority FM which Kabazame is favored to like Hippo, even though Hippo turns out to be scum that game. Voting against Cyanide because she’s stating the rule of 3 between moogle, Rajidae and Zorvo? @Kabazame Yo hotshot, You voted Cyanide because of the hyperlink I mentioned, right? Kabazame shares same thoughts of why Pigeon is only seemly interested of Cyanide being mafia. This is actually pretty good on him. Further pursue on Cyanide where this rule of 3 is exactly going. He’s close to towncore for me this stage, I expect more reads done by him for now on.

Kiiruma: Opener makes sense now I look back again, this does indeed make the jackal NK into nerfed version that way, but enough of that ideal world. I would say that executing mafia, regardless they are recruit or not, will be beneficial for town in the long run because of mafia not having thread control in case we’re losing town players hypothetically which it may stay multiball longer, but I too hope that opposite factions will try to thin the numbers against each other. Zorvo being more aggressively than usual according to Kiiruma since last game they played together, I believe that was mountainous right. The think tank what he thinks about Eevee. I can understand where Kiiruma is going for having a paranoid Zorvo, mech talk is indeed NAI. Kiiruma do want to be clear that he’s not in any way Jackal related and pretty much support Eevee’s idea for mass claim and finding the jackal recruits interacted by the Jackal.

Hippo: Obnoxious opener to tell you the truth, the posts also reminds me from True Majority. He also seems defensively about townreading me is connected through FAM3 and True Majority. Other than that, I would have expect him more to solve even for his joke game. I am not sorry, but you’re in scumlean territory for now.

Rajidae: Opener seems okay, nothing relevant besides having motivation of having fun this game, let’s see…she starts with decent question to Cyanide and while the response isn’t anything AI, but I can understand that. That would suffice to say that Rajidae sees Zorvo as being aggressive town, but I get to that soon. This early interaction with Moogle hydra is not out of place, this post however have some interesting views. First of all, Rajidae isn’t interested in the mech so that would mean she’s going to read players socially. She reads Eliza as aggressive town towards Cyanide, although…the rule of 3 even though the one she quoted from Cyanide have more than just three people, between Moogle, Hazard and Wazza? And leave out myself, Pigeon, Jarek, Chihiro, Marluna, Kabazame, IceT. I understand her vote to make Jarek talk.

HazardWaste: Nothing special out of opener and few posts onwards, I am actually in surprise that Hazard seems to upping his game, between Cyanide and Hippo he reads there’s wolf between them, it may be worth following this read. His reponse to Eevee’s #713 shows insight with Cyanide and Zorvo, in case Cyanide get executed today. I would hear his response later. Interestingly or I am not seeing this right, the interaction with Kiiruma being signaling looks interesting to me. it doesn’t look like the focus is on finding the jackals. This wallpost, Hazard does change his look on Cyanide that have done comeback so that doesn’t make her worse, but what about Hippo about this? Understandably that he doesn’t like Pigeon being unsure about Cyanide and then voted her anyway. Overall I am giving him solid townlean for now.

END of PART 1 ISO DIVE, I will finish the rest IceT, Eevee, Eliza, Moogle, Cyanide and Zorvo on Part 2.

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feedback - really high effort early-ish wallpost, lots of comments about the same player. Of his “teammates” (game with one traitor) he scumreads hippo (maf 1), nullreads raji (maf 2), and townleans hazard (jackal 3, hidden second mafia in maf comms).

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@Frostwolf103

Zorvo, please.

(zorvo is town, hes trying to play good cop)

@Frostwolf103

@Cyanide

If I wanted to give a six

Eevee/Hippo/Eliza/Pigeon/Chad/Frost

i’ll be happy if three on that list is scum

This one?

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wallsitting on not giving further reads. Of note, the following colour scheme dictates who was scum on that list:) Eevee/Hippo/Eliza/Pigeon/Chad/Frost. The missing players were Rajidae and (spy) Hazard. With the person he thinks is the mole and himself on the list, he’s okay with it, and tries to use it to talk zorvo out of an exe (because zorvo’s a chaos player, a boon for mafia in this game)

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@Frostwolf103

So wait, why Zorvo as counterwagon and not… you know, one of those six?

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and that was all of interest of his day one! to admit it, he’s quite different this game. it could be played off because theres another faction, but i’d like to think about it a bit more.

[Achromatic]

maybe I was a bit too hasty going for kiiruma’s head, given the facts as we understand them

also

@idot

I voted someone to troll you at first, and then to save frost

[hal]

@idot

I want you to help me find you

alright, i’ll be more active and findable this cycle