Two Rooms and a Boom - Game Over, Draw

[tutuu]

reposting my setup idea:

@tutuu

i was in the mood for some game brewing

how about this for a setup:

r/b bomber/president

r/b ambassador , with these changes:
-only allowed to be at one room at a time (one thread). they start in different rooms. they may change their room once during the middle of the phase, and once during the end phase, each round, before hostages are revealed. host needs to manually kick them out and add them
-allowed to vote
-nobody is allowed to unilaterally give them card or color information in private meetings
-allow players to opt out of randing (more visible)

r/b pirate:
-once per game may publicly reveal their card and choose a player in their room. that player must be one of the hostages
-must be used in the first half of the phase

r/b security:
-once per game may publicly reveal their card and pick a player. that player can’t be sent as a hostage this turn
-must be used in the first half of the phase

-it and pirate effects cancel each other out. allow players to proxy submit that action such as “if anyone uses pirate/secutiy action on X, i will use my action on X or Y” or anything that can be followed logically / is objective or public information. (for long form convenience)

r/b rat:
-once per game may publicly reveal their card and enter the other room. at the end of the round, return to the previous room
-they can’t be elected as a hostage in the new room, but they can vote to usurp leaders (unlike in the original rulebook)
-must be used in the first half of the phase

(this gives each team 4 roles that can serve as majority breakers)

r/b coyboy

r/b shy guy

r/b spy

then, for the neutrals. if odd number of players, the sole neutral:

clone/robot
-clone: you win if the alignment of the first player you colored shared with wins
-robot: you win if the alignment of the first player you colored shared with loses
-you’re not allowed to card reveal or share, only color share (just like the coyboy) (unlike the original clone and robot roles)
-(it will be randed by the host which one of clone/robot gets in the game)

if even number of players:

bounty hunter and freedom fighter:
-your colors are both gray and blue (and grey and red for the other)
-at the end of the game, privately submit a guess for the identity of the other one. if you successfully guess them and they don’t guess you, you win, and they lose.
-if you both guess each other, or if neither guesses the other, then you instead both become vanilla blue / vanilla red, and win and lose with blue and red teams

r/b vanillas, to fill the rest of the playerlist count

potentially add nerfed agents and/or negotiators instead of vanilla. made filler roles instead of vanillas

[Ash]

Ah, gotcha
@Marshal, how’d you learn I was President?

[tutuu]

i told it to N1 who told it to her i think

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

Cult leader:
Pres bomber doc and engineer are immune to being cultists
Everyone loses individually if they die to cult leader, non cultists still win if their team wins for that

[Daeron]

@Ash

how’d you learn I was President?

Marshal had an agreement with both ambassadors to learn both the bomber and president to guarantee her win, and then to permenantly claim red shy guy as anti-mm bait

[Zugzwang]

@Daeron

I think Marissa just broke the record for most amount of players betrayed in a single misc on both old FoL and new FoL

new fam trivia question just dropped

[Daeron]

Or at least had an agreement with me and said they had planned to agree with tutuu as well
I told Marshal that Kanave was bomber

[tutuu]

(i was never in a meeting with marshal and i was uninterested in making deals with neutrals)

[Daeron]

okay it was N.1 then

[ElizaThePsycho (Willow)]

Game needs a lot of homebrew and house rules to function longform but the skeleton is great

[Ash]

So me → Tutuu → N1 → Marshal → Daeron.

[Daeron]

@tutuu did your team ever learn of kanave bomber?

[Kiiruma]

A lot of greys are good fun!

Butler + Maid
Decoy + Sniper + Target
Romeo + Juliet
Mistress + Wife

Unfortunately Mastermind’s just one of the worst of the options

[Ash]

N1 told me about it, so yes.

[Daeron]

was that from Marshal as well?

[Ash]

Presumably.

[May]

(And, like, it turned out fine because Zug was very kind and gracious and didn’t want to make people upset. But the hosts shouldn’t put players in positions where they have to be very kind and gracious to not make a bunch of people angry. People shouldn’t have to sacrifice their win condition to not be seen as “mean”, that’s a recipe for bad feelings in a game, and offering a gentleman’s agreement to draw in public instead of in private is quite literally asking somebody to sacrifice their win condition to be nice.)

[Daeron]

wow! time to never ever trust marshal ever again in a misc

[Bionic]

you trust people in games?

[Kiiruma]

I’m the most trustworthy in miscs.
I’d never be a good player who’d join an evil team willingly.