Umineko FM: Land of the Golden Witch - Thread 1 - Days 1 & 2

[Sadbi]

You have to explain this

[sufdaddy]

why?

[Achromatic]

read MY opener x(

[katze]

i mean flat out if arctic is a villager his pov on the game is going to be permanently warped until i flip or he actually reevaluates me correctly

admittedly i think my pov is pretty warped too because he is correct, as it stands i believe my wagon is primarily village motivated. that eod does not really make sense in that world.

so i will probably try my hardest to be an obvious villager today, but i have low confidence in people seeing it, solely because people hold me to pretty insane standards that i really cant meet

[HowardHamlin]

i didn’t even start the katze wagon

but i’ll be honest after i saw that rue post on visor and was looking for a new wagon to start it was probably going to be katze and i was pleasantly surprised when i saw someone else do it

i recognize i put too much stock into the heisenberg threadread but i believed in it because i probably subconsciously projected how i would play this game as a wolf onto this wolfteam, i didn’t think wolves would just let him get thrown around all day without having anyone being overtly credgrabby with his flip if he was a wolf. so that’s why i did what i did

maybe i’ll die for it but i overplayed
just kinda sucks if katze is actually a wolf because i doubt anyone is going to sheep me post mortem

[Sadbi]

Not helpful

[min]

now my opinion on zorvo is flipping

nice

[Gyrlander]

I can hardly imagine that a role which creates new accounts to join the game can be Town.

VOTE: GaulSoodman

[spf]

i mean fwiw i actually can see an argument for most of the katze voters yesterday being town, even though i’m not convinced that all of them are

that said, i feel that “all the katze voters are town = katze being mafia” is fallacious logic, and it is the exact same logic that led to you attempting to take votes off of the heisenberg wagon yesterday. @HowardHamlin , if you are town, i would expect you to correct the flaws in your logic after you saw how it led to you defending a wolf yesterday, instead of doubling down today and pretending like your argument intuitively makes sense when it actually does not

[guavagudetama]

Can you explain what this means again
I’m sorry but I genuinely don’t understand what you’re saying

[min]

@Heisenberg

Regardless of Zorvo’s alignment if it’s him doing this nobody else knew it was happening

this quote is so lmao to me

[GaulSoodman]

The second and third paragraph especially suck, second part feels kinda wet farty and like you’re trying to assassinate your post so you don’t really need to do anything with your post.

Third part feels very appeasy to katze, I don’t see the point in asking Katze directly.

[sufdaddy]

i thought you meant you townread them for something other than the vote from how you said that

idrc about that

[Sadbi]

@katze how good are you at reading ruby?

@Ruby

So i read through Heinshinberg and it feels like they never got into the game theres alot of side jokes and memeing but like he never really goes into the game feels like he played as a game in the first hourish but never got out of that meadow state.

From what i know geyde (heidsenberg) doesn’t play alot of FM so i actually don’t know if this is actually just NAI i wish his last post wasn’t seven horus ago cause i wanna see what he does when in but i dought that happens today as the ISO currently stands.

More to what i mean i guess to not in it there’s a few spots he feels to just not be caught up but acting as if he is forcing points/questions i remember he had a game he was N1ed as mafia earlyier @katze cause i think you would know for sure i remember this vaugly

Thoughts on this post?

[GaulSoodman]

I like how you said this and then voted me

based

[katze]

oh yeah i was gonna say that i think gortas posts yesterday were pretty terrible but in the sense that he has no TMI

because i do believe he probably takes the chance to get SOME credit off of heisenberg. or do something.

he missed EoD but for now id say solidly likely v!gorta, yea

@Gyrlander

I can hardly imagine a role that creates new accounts to join the game can be Town.

VOTE: GaulSoodman

1. you’re voting the wrong person
2. it can be, trust

[spf]

there are literally multiple explanations for why the katze voters could have been all (or majority) town yesterday and for katze to have been town as well, such as:

-the wolves decided to bus heisenberg because they saw he was going down

-the wolves were AFK from the thread and largely off of both wagons

-the wolves wanted to keep katze alive as a future mischop

to assume that katze must be mafia if all katze voters were town is confirmation biased logic, and if katze is mafia, that isn’t why she is

[nightingale]

i read his iso and id give him benefit of the doubt
i dont think his treatment of heisen should be cleaning though
its not like a bury or something
maybe unlike his wolf mo but not outside range of possibility?

[min]

@Heisenberg

I don’t see anything wrong with thread direction rn
So disagree with “talk about literally anyone else now”
People are doing that lol

like here is my dilemma

this was obviously made knowing that the hyper fixation on zorvo DID exist

is he pointing flashing arrows at his scumbuddy so people derail thread or is he just aware v!zorvo is making people do nothing but talk about him again someone give me thots

[katze]

@Sadbi

@katze how good are you at reading ruby?

im not

@Sadbi

Thoughts on this post?

mixed feelings

i kinda think she’d not want to vote me regardless of alignment but i know she has a good read on me and i know she knows i know that so its not out of the realm of possibility she felt forced into townreading me because she was scared id call her out if she didnt. with that said when i did call her out i thought her response was vaguely >rand v

@nightingale

i read his iso and id give him benefit of the doubt
i dont think his treatment of heisen should be cleaning though
its not like a bury or something
maybe unlike his wolf mo but not outside range of possibility?

not a bury sure

more than enough for me to consider it a terrible vote for today, and i think his convo with me about geyde goes pretty differently if hes a wolf