Undertale Overhaul - MAFIA + NEUTRAL VICTORY

[Hazardwaste]

Now i am more awake and luka is here. can you explain your vote on me while i re read the day

[Millium]

im 100% sure u can do more than whatever this is
im being belitted here and all u can say is “Millium towny”

Hazard is also the top wagon, so do u think they are town or not? and why
I understand Wazza’s frustration but that doesnt make them town, what exactly were they open about?

[Luka]

Here @millium
Forgetting mafia tact existing

[Luka]

Alot of content from you felt more like filler; contributing w/o actually contributing.

[Millium]

UNVOTE

[Bakefia]

@Kiiruma

Yes, I do understand that you can do it as town. But after that last game where you did it and I sussed you for it, I don’t think you’d immediately do the same thing. Instead it feels performative and like you’re doing it just to be like “I’m towny because I did this before”

Baker is the one that did it Kiiruma, not me.

@powerofdeath

Alright, after some consideration, I decided to go ahead and claim because quite frankly, its pretty hard for me to win without the cooperation from town. Don’t worry I am immune to anticlaim mechanics, and if Mafia want to kill me, then I guess powers to them. If I lose because of this then I guess it’s my time to die.

I am a neutral role with a win condition of that I have to visit a player that also visit me back… Three times…

I’m calling bull on there being a neut immune to anticlaim mechanics.

@Wazza

Baker’s posting has been atrocious from what I saw, they go on especially about my slot with seemingly nothing to go based on it and everyone treats it as if it’s an actual read?

@Bakefia

There are some towny posts from Millium, but those posts can easily be fabricated by a skilled wolf. Trust me on that.

Hazard skipped a read on Wazza first then at #69 gave a townread with a weak reasoning.

Also, my meta on Wazza: they have a keen mind and gamer fingers that can type essays quickly. Melding with Kii’s vote here.

VOTE: Wazza

Extending the vote on Hazard too.

Not to mention, this post sucks ass:

@Bakefia

Both Wazza voters provided a similar meta conclusion on Wazza.

Wazza received a controversial read by a third player.

There is a resistance to Wazza wagon building up. Could be people afraid of making bigger wagons or could be people not paying attention to every post.

You bringing a 1 poster under spotlight isn’t really going to help the situation in town’s favor.

You can keep disagreeing though, all cool!

This entire post brings nothing but irony and honestly just complete disregard to the thread? At the time of this post the two people voting me are Kiiruma and Baker (I’m specifying Baker for now, I’ll get to Leafia later). Kiiruma did not place a metaread on me whatsoever, he just wants me to post more relevantly, and Baker’s metaread on me… isn’t a read? Yet there’s a “similar meta conclusion” on myself and I’ve apparently received a “controversial read by a third player”? I don’t understand the latter part or what it could even mean but the first part is just straight nothing because it has no factual quotes that can back it up (And I’m sure of that since Kiiruma’s ISO is quite literally 9 posts long)

The resistant comment is literally just shading me, bear in mind we’re only 22 hours into the game, only 362 posts in and not everyone has even spoken at this point.

Also, the comment about the 1 poster under spotlight is ironic because at the time of this post (and for all of Baker’s push) I have literally only 3 posts. (just thought it was funny to mention but god it’s stupid)

If tutuu’s posting wasn’t worse and Leafia didn’t improve the posting significantly, this would’ve been my vote for this post alone.

More coming soon, just really wanted to comment on this before I left to eat.

Yeah. Wazza can have a townread from me for now.

@Bakefia

I am keep ignoring you and you keep pushing the issue. I asked you to step back too IDK what’s your problem with me since post 40 or something all you have done was to shade me. I am ignoring you rest of the game as wolf/anti-town whatever you take. have fun convincing others

Millium has never even once shaded us at all.

Now please get off your high horse and realize what you’re doing here Baker. You’re literally ruining the enjoyment of this game for Millium when they haven’t even been that wolfy if at all. In fact, if we weren’t a hydra, I’d thinkk you were an exe or a wolf or something the way you’re treating Millium right now.

[Luka]

Townie post

[Kiiruma]

I liked your opener, thought it was relatively towny. And your other posts early game were decent too. It’s nothing that’s impossible from a wolf, but I’d lean on them being from town instead. The same applies to your further posts and interactions with Bakefia, it’s not like it cannot be wolf, but it instead feels moreso a towny who’s frustrated. I know I’ve felt that way myself when it comes to Leafia and (moreso) Zorvo.

Hazard’s posts feel genuine. I also honestly kinda read him good but by gut too. I’m comparing this to his recent W game with May and it seems different.

Wazza’s frustration feels towny. She also seems to have alright takes, my weakest of my T reads but I’d want her alive for a while.

[Millium]

VOTE: Marluna

[Luka]

Can I call you Kii that’s cuter

[Bakefia]

You’re definitely not wrong there.

[IcetFeelsPain]

It wasn’t rlly a slip but it’s why I unvoted

[Kiiruma]

Yeah, sure.
Kiiruma / Kii both work for me

[IcetFeelsPain]

@Bakefia

I’m calling bull on there being a neut immune to anticlaim mechanics.

Ok but neut to town vanilla is kinda funny

[Bakefia]

That I’ll agree with.

[Hazardwaste]

@Luka

How to contribute without contributing anything 101. Nobody dogpiled on ash, betting rn that Hazard/Millium scum together.

@Luka

Townie since I agree with the logic, comes off slightly scummy / akward. Ill sheep you on this, VOTE: Ash

i will say thee irony here is funny as fuck. but i will admit the word dogpile was probably a bit too much. and i cant really say much when it was a read on the first 4 hours on the game which didnt have much text anyway

@Luka

Now this town slip I actually believe. Ash town.

i can see where your coming from but i dont wanna lock town ash for something that can be faked

@Luka

Hazard is scum and wants a scum read to feign thread contribution

explain?

@Luka

Actually nvm power of death is a new player lets be nice
VOTE: hazard

i respect this change of vote heavily. even though its NAI i just really respect giving the new player a chance

@Kiiruma

I mean that is a reasonable response but what does it mean in regards to our slots? Is it wolfy for us to be doing it? Or did you just point it out so you can seem like you’re doing something helpful?

btw kiiruma is not pushing anyone but i dont wanna do my usual tell on him because he recently got his first job so he would be a lot more busier then usual

@Bakefia

Focus isn’t only on Wazza here. You should consider rereading the 5 people I mentioned and find the wolf in them if possible.

Millium/Kiiruma/Marluna/Wazza/Hazard

i am not too angry about this poe. but i wouldnt go as far to say 2 wolves live in here

@tutuu

I cant wait to see what broken PR did Kii rand this time. Hes always the PR guy. Even when hes VT hes PR (leafia loverized him in a recent game) (and she townread him even and did it for the chat, aint that wild?)

you know. fair

@Bakefia

You are most likely a wolf, not outed. you are very wolfy you need to take a step back tbh

what was the reason for the change of heart again? i thought you just read them town

@Bakefia

I actualy agree with Millum here. That’s frustrating no matter what your alignment is.

I do think you’re likely town Millium.

is this a baker and leafia dispute? what do you two think about millium as a group not as singles

[Bakefia]

[Kiiruma]

@Hazardwaste

btw kiiruma is not pushing anyone but i dont wanna do my usual tell on him because he recently got his first job so he would be a lot more busier then usual

I had a vote on Wazza for pressure and now have one on Frost smh

[Hazardwaste]

thats fair but its like day 1 and i am not a social player. i play with mechanics and i dont get that on day 1 so my reads are me trying hard to actually be helpful XD

[Millium]

@Wazza
how did ur vote end up on Tuttu after u came back to the thread? did u just check the VC and vote?