Vampire The Masquerade SFM: Game Thread MAFIA VICTORY

[Luka]

Fair~~

[Jarek]

@Luka

I’m also not seeing how I’m starting to look evil here at all

SO I know I’m town and you’re making demands of me and acting like you’re infallible. From my perspective, you’re barking up the wrong tree. Sure to you I probably look super evil whatever got the pitchfork and everything. But under no circumstances am I caving into a demand that might lose me the game from someone whose only interaction with me this entire game is to call me evil over and over again.

[Luka]

@Wazza

This is just from the posts I’ve seen, I could’ve easily missed quite a bit

Leafia is mech town off of bionic, and I doubt they were converted ^^.

[Leafia]

Kiiruma, if we didn’t have space to wait, then it wouldn’t be mylo. It would be lylo and we had claimers since D2, like me. Yet no one has died to anticlaim to the best of my knowledge.

[Wazza]

oh sh I missed that

[Luka]

@Jarek

SO I know I’m town and you’re making demands of me and acting like you’re infallible. From my perspective, you’re barking up the wrong tree. Sure to you I probably look super evil whatever got the pitchfork and everything. But under no circumstances am I caving into a demand that might lose me the game from someone whose only interaction with me this entire game is to call me evil over and over again.

I can give you a bit more if you wan’t. So, here’s my perspective. In probably a second, I need to create the post lol.

[Gorta]

@Gorta

weird theory, but Childe/Luka/Magnus/ and someone else is my current thought

@Gorta

before I went to sleep Childe was a wagon and was basically silent for most of d2 (after posting more d1) and Luka had been defending Childe on meta, but Magnus came in after I went to sleep and pushed for people to not vote Childe and that we should move to Bionic

already done

[Gorta]

of course I plan to dig deeper, but I’ve given my answer based on the interactions I remember

[Leafia]

If that happens, wolfteam is outed with 5 votes on a villager and needing 6 to exe.

[Gorta]

I guess that would be lylo then?

[Zone_Q11]

@Gorta

ok, but you do realize that if town votes a town it’s probably over right?

Lemme check… 11 players
Assumption is 7 town and 4 mafia (I’m dropping the 3P theory)

Maj of 11 is 6, so…
No? We lose if 2 town votes a 3rd town

[Leafia]

Yup. Lylo is if we vote incorrectly we lose.

[Gorta]

I see, but I still don’t want to vote without actually discussing suspects

[Leafia]

Going to head out for a bit now too.

[Gorta]

basically no snap voting

[Leafia]

This always comes from town I feel.

[Gorta]

I’m going to have to move some furniture in a little bit

[Luka]

@Jarek

I am here to declare I am confirmed town I expect town protectives and lookouts to be on me or SUS

At the start of the game you just called yourself confirmed town w/o really any rhyme or reason. It felt like trying to project being towny while not doing anything, which I did call out, which makes you saying that I’m just calling you evil with no interaction a bit weird, given I’m actively calling out things. Like, you did this for a wihle too.

@Jarek

I am clearly confirmed town everyone knows that, voting the confirmed town means you work against the town

@Jarek

this is suspicious behaviour

@Jarek

If I say it loud enough it has to be true that’s how it works

This post feels pretty akaward as well, IMO a town going with this gimmick would just continue to say “I’m confirmed town” rather than it comes true later. Your post following that shows once again, thought into your posts, when in my experience town just says what they wan’t.

@Jarek

I had to think of a comical answer to this thought experiment because we all know that the reality is I am confirmed town

@Jarek

They won’t anti-claim the fact that I’m a delayed innocent child

This shows kind of a lack of fear towards anti-claim mechanics that I see in most towns, when they are prevenlant and exists. Which, I normally don’t see coming from a town perspective.

@Jarek

But then I’d be converted and that’d be funny as well

You said you wan’t to be converted, and this feels like TMIing the conversion mechanic could be due to anti claim. I brought up conversion due to it sure, but at the same time once agian you didn’t feel any fear towards potential anti-claim mechanics.

@Jarek

I’m not saying they’re evil I’m saying that it seems like an excuse to look like you’re doing something when you’re not

You also seem kind of afraid to accuse me as evil here, not really doing much. I don’t get the logic behind saying I’m trying to look busy by doing something when IMO, it’s an actual case against you. You don’t deny the cases either, like, I would suspect a town here would just continue with the “I’m unconvertable!” gimmick.

@Jarek

I for one do not have one conversation with a person and then soul-read them and know everything about them you’ll have to forgive me

You keep on bringing this up as if this is what I’m doing towards you as well, but at the same time you still lost the gimmick from early game which a town normally doesn’t use. In addition to that, I had fair reasons to supect you which you just waved off, and good reasons at that IMO.

@Jarek

Hot-take everyone here so far is town

This feels TMIish given I think most of the poeple who entered thread RN are town at the time. And it’s also going back on what you said earlier, which feels like trying to gain a town read from audacity. I’m going to go towards the end of the ISO since I don’t want to be accused of just looking at things earlier on.

@Jarek

Wazzas evil you’re starting to look evil.

Calling Wazza evil here w/o reason or rhyme feels like trying to capitalize on my earlier suspicion of Wazza without really doing much here, I don’t get the incentive to do such a thing.

@Jarek

I have no reason to trust or believe you have my best interests in mind and asking me to vote first when your assessment of me has been “has no reads” makes me think you’re just trying to get me to make a bad vote assuming I know less about the game than others.

It’s not just that you have no reads, it’s that you actively feel like you’re not trying to do anything. I already brought the meta argument up multiple times this run, and it’s like your scared to case people. You aren’t really giving reasoning for any of your “reads” here either other than it just is.

@Jarek

SO I know I’m town and you’re making demands of me and acting like you’re infallible. From my perspective, you’re barking up the wrong tree. Sure to you I probably look super evil whatever got the pitchfork and everything. But under no circumstances am I caving into a demand that might lose me the game from someone whose only interaction with me this entire game is to call me evil over and over again.

Also, this feels like TMIing me town in this post.

@Jarek

Okay. Vote me.

I also hate posts like this, last time I saw one I instantly voted it. Anybody asking to be Shot/Bombed/Voted ect. is >rand wolf simply because wolf wants to get town read off of having no "fear’ or things like that. It just feels really bad.

@Jarek

For all I know luka I and wazza are actually town and you win if I vote wazza

Calling Wazza wolf later on and then having them as town here once again feels like fear towards actually voting.

I can continue this, but either way saying I have no case against you is just bullshit and makes me feel bad. I’ve actively been trying all game, and for somebody to just dismiss my effort with “you’ve just been calling me evil!” is. Yeah.

[Luka]

@Gorta

already done

Then, in your world my teams should be correct. So, I don’t get why you’re so reluctant here. I also believe that at the very least Me / Sunny are v/v, so I don’t really know about these teams.

[Gorta]

because I’m not snap voting just because you suspect me