Who knows.
All we can make are assumptions which is kinda dangerous for day 1.
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Hey if weāre making guesstimates then it means wolves are kinda having a little bit less mystery and surprise at least since we now know things we could be expecting.
Kiiruma i have no clue what you just said tbh mate.
Guesses/estimates = Guesstimates.
Weāre making some assumptions but at least using precedence behind them.
And this makes it so mafia/wolves arenāt able to really be as tricky if weāre having ideas of what could occur.
I was more referring to the second line of your statement.
I get your point but locking on an assumption this early could prove difficult to change that assumption is my point.
I was considering that it might be a false conversion game, with a sleeper agent as allowed by the bastard classification, but my vain hopes were dashed anyway.
Thanks for accusing Hazard of TMI regarding conversion mechanics, his response was the most neutral and unreadable answer imaginable.
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I mean I feel like having a sleeper agent and having one of the core concepts of the game (Conversion) being false is insane 
Sure, bastard mechanics exist but if a bastard mechanic is that multiple other mechanics donāt exist then Iām going to feel like Iām back in one of Zoneās games hunting for a non-existing SK 
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Also the fact that I mention this so often just tells yall how much certain things stick with me on these forums.
I have Zoneās thing there, I have Juttering Watchtower āYou have received the following advice from the hostā or whatever the exact wording isā¦ like aaaaaa
Do you want me to do a back flip and a tap dance. I really dont understand what i did that was so neutral.
I said the thought process i had behind the message. Am i supposed to have a melt down on top of it?
its such an insane statement.
Magnus what made you think of this at all?
Itās something Iāve considered for setups before.
Adding a sleeper agent and warning about the possibility of conversion since thatās how it would functionally appear to other players in the game. Projecting, in other words.
this feels more like a BOTC thing then a mafia thing tho
Around a year ago or so, I stumbled across an old run bastard game on some site where the rules werenāt explained, which is where I originally heard of the sleeper agent role in a Mafia context. As for how that relates here, it doesnāt. Feel free to ignore my rambles unless I think theyāre relevant.
Honestly i would rather something fill the void so the game isnt forgotten day 1
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Sleeper just feels unfun tbh from what i have heard of it
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Its like marionette. But more fucked
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Hazard youāre my marionette
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The other minion is meze Iām fg
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I donāt really like any of the wagons rn Abi is ok because I donāt really have a read on Abi but Luka calls Abi town so Iād rather vote there before abi
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You being FG still holds a special hatred in my heart
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