and sniped
This doesnāt concern you at all?
i think sultan went about it in a more malicious way to be fair, coupled with their insta vote
but like u can say the same about fucking Otter, who wrote a hot garbage case on you, completely ignored the fact that derps also flipped town
but logic isnāt really a strong suit on
k?
Like this is the sort of thing where heās either correct and youāre mafia or heās a wolf trying to kill you with it
These sorts of interactions are rarely pure because frame kills donāt happen unless the wolves actually try making a point of it the next day
I mean Iām saying why pivoting from you to me, which is what kiiruma seems to be doing, makes literally no sense because there is basically no world where youāre town and Iām mafia unless you think Iām making my life extra hard for no reason by defending you when the alternative is, what, me?
tbh I really dont understand how anyone can jump on Derps was killed because they voted Millium, when they did nothing with it, and didnāt ever even pressure. Derps being an āeasier mislynchā is still up in there air, realistically, I think if they came back, they couldāve probably gotten people off them, but again existing is hard on FoL. At this point, anyone with logical understanding of KE, knows that wolves need to killing PRs
I also dont specifically kill me that suspect me as a wolf anyways, Id rather kill people town reading me
why? also idk what a frame kill is
nvm my brain read āframeā weirdly
@arctic
To be fair I donāt really actively agree on the āfindā part cause if kiiruma truly wanted to be found he could do it, Iāve seen him do it
But like we both aligned on sultan earlier in the day phase, so why do u specifically want to pivot on kiiruma today?
People have been all over the place on me, and itās true that the argument āderp died because millium could be a wolf is simplisticā, but I think Sultan played it off a lot wolfier. I especially think Eliza/sultan can work cause not only was the reasoning on me bad, the reason on Eliza in this game state doesnāt really make sense, because wolves can easily say, āearly votes are scaryā, when we all know early hammers are not going to happen when their are two factions that can kill
Im just getting lost with sultans hedging on me, like I donāt see why they bother if the plan was to frame me for the kill, just to go the harder route which is you.
I keep going back on forth on whether or not sultan was just blatantly spewed town by achro and Iām kinda worried he just is and Iām inting
And if not you, or sultan, or brak, or rhea, then whoās left in this list, when achro was almost certainly townreading at least one of his partners here?
i mean maybe because heās being called out for it and he has both options available. like iāve pointed out that the wolfiest thing from him is how heās been handling you, itās in his interest to change that
thatās a pretty basic wolf archetype, villagers are more inclined to stick to their guns in lylo, wolves can afford to be more all over the place if none of them are actually in danger of dying
I actually think wolves are more likely to stick to their guns because changing trajectory isnāt the easiest thing for wolves as the player list twindles
And to ur above post, I donāt want to fall into the rabbit hole that is Chrisās side of spew
Where do u think sultan was spewed town by chris
Iām finna go through kiirumas iso again give me a bit
How tf has Eliza posted more in the Signups thread then the actual game
I taught sultan how to wolf. I also gave him loads of tips on how to town cthat post of re-evaluating and realizing he was too hasty is right out of that i taught him last year for champs
Sultan is a very bad wavon. Hard shielding.
guys, sultan is just wholesome like that lol
like my instinctual reaction is that this feels like TMI but then again it is achro so i guess anythingās possible
Ya but those vcs also has him voting derps, so I donāt see why Chris trying to kill someone we know is town, while also defending his partner!sultan given how tight the wagons were canāt be a thing
Millium Day 1:
Meta is one of my strongest points, I meta dive a lot through out my games
I have not seen Millium meta dive a single person
Gratz on rolling town lol
I honestly donāt like Kiirumaās interactions with Millium here? I feels like w/w or w/t because it feels like one is deliberately interacting with the other purely for the sake of it.
Crescents wagon doesnt really feel like it should exist
Kiiruma votes them in #168, while responding to brak, which I always find the whole random vote in the middle of a conversation that doesnt involve it, to be wolfy in a bubble
Derp mentions Crescent in #77 and votes them in #382, and thatās it, there is exists no progression, or reason the vote outside a random w/w read, and they havent discussed Crescent since
Bionic votes Crescent in #394, and thats it
With the benefit of hindset this post is pretty awful. Honestly it seems w/w with Crescent slot considering how hard they are defending it against two, now flipped, villagers.
why do u think I wrote, āEliza has posted more in signups than she will in the actual gameā
Honestly I find this comment actually hilarious that it is still true. +town
Im fine with ur read on Kiiruma, I agree there, I dont think sultan is townie
For context, this is in a response to Achromatic who Town read Kiiruma:
town friends
Wisp/Milli
Rhea
Brak
Sultan
Kiiruma
Milliam, Achromatic, Kiiruma is not definitley w/w/w as this would be an extremely weird exchange to make if all three of them were wolves.
Currently Achro feels exactly like how they did in my last game
With the Response from Sultan:
Yeahā¦ its not great i do feel a little more genuineness but still not the achro we know and love
Definitely not w/w between these two, it seems like a bit of an odd interaction from w! Millium to say that Achro feels the same and then w! Sultan to say āno he doesnāt feel as genuineā.
tbf I dont actually have a recent town game from him, so idk what I even love lol. What feels more genuine though?
This comment is pretty wolfy in retrospective in accordance the previous comment, as it doesnāt really make sense why t!Millium would say āAchro feels the same as he does as villager this gameā and then say āOh I actually havenāt played a recent town game with himā.
also a reminder that Achroās wolf game can look like this beauty
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/40452-Path-of-Radiance-Mafia
fuck u chris
Honestly +town for adding suspision on Achro here.
Millium
Rhea
Zug
LeafiaKiiruma
Eliza
Crescent
Frostwolf103Null:
Dec
SomeonePoe:
Achromatic
SultanOfSlam
Brakuren
Marluna
Derpshe rest of the players include this, im not actively calling them PoE, but they certainly arent null, and some other notes:
otterpopd
Bionic
Hazardwaste
Eh. Alright list. Achro in PoE after defending him at the SoD is a bit weird though. It feels like they were just going along with the flow of the thread, as alot of people where voting achro at this point in time:
Achromatic (3): otterpopd, SirDerpsAlot, Bionic
you have 0 experience with me
This is a very wolfy comment, so much so, that I litterally made fun of it at the time:
Umm actually if you knew my meta you would know that when I am acting entremely wolfy That means im actually Townā¦ sooo um your read is incorrect
Even if that was the case, what about ur approach? You made is frustratingly hard to read kikruma naturally, u town locked them for no good reason, and u seem to be doing it again with achro, whatās ur read on achro currently?
Donāt like this post. They are trying to place doubt on
SirDerpsAlotās Read on Kiiruma
I think u are just voting to survive which isnāt contextually wolfy on its own because anyone should be trying to live, but I fail to see any meaningful solving and ur only notedable scum reads are voting rheea because walls are the devil and crescent because you donāt like how they are handling you, which makes no sense to me given that they town read u for most of the day phase
This is incredibly funny in hindsight.
can u explain ur thoughts on Bio/otter/sultan as quickly as possible, I have no intention of going to someone after how last game went. I agree with ur read on Derps, since I think they have been townie in their approach to EoD
I like this post +town
I prefer the execution to be on Bionic/Otter/Sultan
I donāt really like this post, as it feels like they are just sheeping other peoples votes:
Bionic (4): Someone, Marluna, Leafia, Millium
Someone (3): SirDerpsAlot, Rhea, Bionic
SirDerpsAlot (2): Frostwolf103, Achromatic
SultanOfSlam (2): ElizaThePsycho, otterpopd
Crescent (1): Kiiruma
otterpopd (1): SultanOfSlam
Leafia (1): Brakuren
FPoV of w!Millium, none of the top wagons are a scum so they shouldnāt care. Idk if this is +town or +scum for sheeping other peopleās wagons. I am more inclined to say +town as a wolf would probably just stop talking as town is imploding.
i forgot to add to my list
Derps:
While i think toneally they felt drastically different, and their early game felt like they were flinging mud around, I think they have been hella townie this EoD, Iād take my time reading that slot, if im not alive tmr
I agree with this +town
So this is you saying that you think that Marluna is town. Gotcha