Percy Jackson and the Olympians FM - Town wins!

[tutuu]

Im not preventing you from townreading your townreads

Can you provide an example of you doing this as town - having an opener post in which you protest the top wagon? This is a general wolf tell for mafia players as a whole, not one for you specifically. Its not just “reveal a townread” its “have a confident townread on the top wagon / protest the top wagon”. If we have evidence that you’ve done it as town we’d have no reason to scumread you for it. If our only evidence is you doing it as mafia then it’s logical for us to be suspicious of it

You lashing out for that was uncalled for, we didnt provoke you or tunnel you. The calmer / sensible reaction from you would have been to simply remind us that youve done it as town, and ideally prove it by telling us in which game, and if possible a quote of a post from that game

[Arctic]

for the record a theme of her wolfgames where i incorrectly townread her and died was that she just kept posting and pushing her became a sunken cost fallacy even though when i looked back on it she hadn’t actually posted anything towny, so for this reason i wouldn’t townread her here just because of posting through the pressure unless you actually think her posts are towny (i personally do not)

[tutuu]

Alright ill move her out of towncore amd down to townreads for now upon further notice

[Arctic]

this was at the time atlas (i think) was using “not hyper posting” as a reason for why you might be town which was silly given you only just got to the thread

[Arctic]

you can avoid this issue by not making baseless comments about wagons being bad unless you actually townread the player - if you did townread atlas when you made that first post then 1. my apologies and 2. can you explain why

but my impression was that you didn’t actually townread atlas and just thought that they weren’t wolfy. and i feel like you’ve played this game long enough to know that people who aren’t towny get wagoned to become more readable or just killed because of POE, regardless of whether they’re null or wolfy

[Kiiruma]

Baldur's Gate 3 uPick - Day 4 [8/13] - The Party Wins

Someone: Someone’s slot despite being one of the higher posters is very much underwhelming. Unfortunately though this is consistent with precedence in which Someone semi-refuses to do reads. I think the reaction to Jarek’s Innocent Child shtick was fine but overall this slot basically cannot be a confident read due to the nature of Someone in games. Overall I’d say this slot is Null Lean Wolf, as I think that some bits feel slightly stagnant and although Someone has asked some questions they fee…

Wasn’t quite my opener, but it was in depth post in which I townread the top wagon (Leafia)
Beforehand the wagons were 3 on Leafia, 2 on Someone, 1 on 4 different people.
I got myself scumread for this giant post I did because my read was ‘terrible’ and whatnot.
Do note that the wolf team was Someone, Thunderstorm (Luka) and Tutuu~

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Tales of the Abyss - Town Victory!

Alright, I’m pretty hype for this game and it’s time to just have confidence, following the things that Litten taught me before. It’s time to win this game. Achro talked about many players within their first post, not including myself. This means from others’ perspectives when looking back on Achro posts, if Achro flips scum that I am already recognising that I might seem teamed with them. The post itself is fairly chipper and seems to be trying to get people on their side, quite dislike it si…

Leafia (again) was the top wagon and I said that I thought Leafia seemed fine and scumread one of those who was on Leafia’s slot. This was my exact opener that game.

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April Showers Reconstructed - TOWN VICTORY!

So far Bionic’s the slot I’m most comfortable with. I’m happily trying to work out how my rolecard is lying to me this time considering my past experiences too but I’m not gonna say any more than that (Until I inevitably do in not too long of a time frame)

Bionic was one of the slots with 1 vote on them early on.
I was town this game (as well) and I defended the slot. This wasn’t quite the top wagon that early on, however, they were getting some pressure and other posts had talked about the slot.

[tutuu]

Alright, thank you

There is generally not a lot of time in himan lifespan for people to play thousands of mafia games for there to be a lot of data and about specific wordings they use and such. I dont think the quotes you provided are that similar in structure but thats not really on you, its very possible that thats just how the few mafia games we all get to play turn out. So i cant really get concrete data, i need to make a few gambles here and there predicting stuff

I do believe you that you believe this, for the record. Im not townreading you, im not scumreading you either, and if youre town i dont think your interpretation that it is within your town meta to do what you did is unreasonable. Im back to square one with you, just to be clear

[Kiiruma]

@Arctic

you can avoid this issue by not making baseless comments about wagons being bad unless you actually townread the player - if you did townread atlas when you made that first post then 1. my apologies and 2. can you explain why

I townread Atlas.

And, well, unfortunately I fall under the bracket of making posts that people don’t necessarily agree with quite quickly :D

I liked how Atlas’ opener was quite relaxed and yet it didn’t take too long to follow it up with a read albeit a fairly weak one - but this isn’t too surprising considering it’s less than 100 posts into the game. I liked how the slot not only provided early thoughts but prompted others to do so. Plus something slightly mechanical is behind my townread of the slot.

I also feel like Atlas is caring less about the thoughts behind posts and instead is just reading people without caring too much about how those posts will come across. Which is >rand t

[tutuu]

Atlas is also a polarized noob who cant wolf and she nearly has 50% more posts than the second top poster at this moment of recording

[Arctic]

@Kiiruma

I also feel like Atlas is caring less about the thoughts behind posts and instead is just reading people without caring too much about how those posts will come across. Which is >rand t

This is the opposite impression I got because she is adding things to her posts to make it come across like she is being attentive and solving that I don’t think a villager necessarily would. and she even admitted she was trying to come across as towny in this post by saying she would have looked wolfy if she excluded the part I complained about

@Atlas

why wouldn’t I say it
it a. makes it look horrible if i dont and b. doesnt change the fact hes going to react. i phrased it in a specific way to use as a callback later if he misses it aswell

[Arctic]

she is usually the top poster as mafia too it’s just usually by a smaller margin than when she’s town. she also hasn’t lost a wolf game, and you haven’t seen her rand wolf in a normal game. you are underestimating her lol

[tutuu]

Well you did address the post count

But in that case your read that Atlas is post count polarized is invalid

So choose one: Atlas is town here and post count polarized, or we should be careful of wolf Atlas high posting therefore Atlas isnt post count polarized

I think the content of Atlas’ posts is very good for the record. I talk to her every day. These arent surface level thoughts. Shes going deep and shes exhibiting traits from past town games

[Kiiruma]

I guess that might be us not agreeing on the interpretations of her posts.
I think overall the posts have had a lack of care compared to how attentive she would be as W.
Instead it feels like she’s caring less about coordination and planning with W.
And instead is just saying what she thinks she should

[tutuu]

Also, mostly unrelated, but you were generally wrong on her age. I dont know how old she is or roughly how old she is but you were way off. Shes not a baby / toddler

[tutuu]

She didnt know how the difference between your and you’re because english isnt her first language

[tutuu]

(not coz she was a toddler)

[tutuu]

(like @Hazardwaste who is a native english speaker and still doesnt know it)

[tutuu]

( )

[Arctic]

eh okay whatever do what you want idc

[tutuu]

Atlas also wasnt the top poster as minion in the lizards botc gsme