Kiiruma feels like the kind of player to always disagree with thread consensus immediately so I think its NAI. Although I havent played with Kiiruma yet ao cant be entirely sure of meta.
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Iâm unironically contrarian but I guess I just read people in ways that some people donât sometimes lol
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Tutuu
Anonymoose
Arctic
May
These are the safest townreads to have. I urge everybody to have them. I townread them, and multiple of my townreads townread them, and those players are in turn townread by other players
There is a safety net in townreading these four players - if any one of those players is mafia its due to the inaccuracy of multiple town players, not just one
Atlas
Sulit
Jarek
Ash
This set of four is my personal addendum to the towncore. For the bottom three - I dont know these people that well. Iâm applying either general towntells or experimental towntells that havenât been tested in a mafia game before. Iâm not infallible, I can make mistakes. Please make your own risk assessment on sheeping me here. Im very confident these are all town, but there is no safety net here. As for Atlas specifically itâs on the request of Arctic, for moving her down here. Atlas also towncores Arctic like I do. Which makes it correct for me to trust Arctic over Atlas. If Arctic is mafia itâs the combined inaccuracy of both me and Atlas, we share the burden. And Arctic and Atlas arenât w/w they have no reason to bus immediaty. Whereas if Atlas is mafia itâs only my fault, and Arctic warned me. Therefore Arctic should be townread and trusted more than Atlas
Bystander
Leafia
I have mild townreads here. I donât feel confident. These reads are sketchy, so be cautious. Donât blindly sheep them
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Keep the momentum going guys (the townies) (when you wake up, the americans)
Box out the wolves. Be as towny as you can please. Letâs win a game
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no
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But youâre such a goood boyyyy~
Whooos a good boy? Whoooos a good boyyyy?
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The goodest boy will show me who the woofies are~
Whoooo are the woofies?
Whoooo are the woofies?~
This is how town loses games.
I refuse to just have a âEveryone in this is townâ thing 
Any mistake can cause a loss.
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This hasnt been my experience at all
i just have a very strong sense of discontentment with this game right now
like, look at the consensus reads, and then look at the frequent posters list. you (and everyone else to a lesser extent) are just townreading the people playing the game. which makes me unenthusiastic because either youâre wrong (probably on someone like atlas who i canât be bothered to convince you on) and weâll kill the people just not playing/making themselves readable (of which there are far too many) and lose that way or youâre right and the wolves are just the people not playing and the game is boring
in gamestates like this, a wolf in the top half of the players doesnât even have to be towny. they can win by just posting even if itâs not towny (like how I think Atlas is posting) and theyâll be fine because the bar for towniness is so low. this is more or less what happened with my read on rabbit in my champs game. i didnât think he was that towny. i still had him as town despite not really townreading him because so many people were even less towny, and the nature of poe being relative means this is unavoidable. and the losses that happen because of stuff like this is really annoying to deal with because it almost feels like those particular wolves didnât even fool you, itâs justâŚyou canât justify killing them when you have well -gestures at half of the playerlist-
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My experience with town losses is lack of town cohesion thats responsible for the loss, as the most common reason
oh and as a result i also have no interest in doing anything until the bottom half of posters either get towny and we have to re-eval the higher posters or they post and are wolfy then we can just kill them
if they post and are just meh neither wolfy nor towny then weâll still end up killing someone like that over an equally meh higher poster when in reality the probability they are either alignment is gonna be roughly the same
stop stating stuff like this it scares me 
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VOTE: Luxy
I disagree with this ending bit.
I liked the post because of the first few bits youâd said.
I think that the frequent posters always being townread is interesting to me.
how does your point about illwei still apply when she just rescinded that read
like power wolf or not you donât really push the one tr practically every has lol
and i donât really think itâs wrong to worry about the tutu sulit sod weirdness
This is a sample size of one and you might have a recency bias
The high posters in sorc 17er were all town and we cannibalized ourselves due to paranoia
That sample size of one is a counter argument to your example. Wanting the game to be fun can get in the way of winning
I would urge everybody to do what they think is best to win the game weâre playing, and not chase subjective forms of âfunâ and âescaping boredomâ
Please dont mislead your teammates just because youre bored
You are free to case Atlas and convince me or us sheâs Mafia. Nobody can tell you to not do it. Its your own choice if you dont wanna do it. I dont think anyone else is the reason for your discontent of the game
That goes for all the other reads as well. Like feel free to convince people theyre wrong. But please dont imply that we are going in the wrong direction because you wanted this mafia game to be an exciting phoenix wright ace attorney case
you literally have not talked about the game besides that
it shows you like basically read the thread but then chooses to comment on that first
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a little towny
how much does kiiruma push entitlement as wolf?