bcus they were a bully lol
and not awkward
i was like
“yup, typical gremlin tutuu behavior”
then i should iso rhea by today
but what makes it that convincing
like I get viewing it as towny
but how is it that convincing
tutuu is towny in the first place
that just solidified it more for me
but also you can see me questioning it soon after by comparing it to my splatfest entrance
so it didn’t really convince me entirely
but their reaction was just
“it was just our friendship influencing me”
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mmmmmmmmmm
I read this a joke
but. I can see the overall idea here I guess
it makes sense to have a lower standard for being comfortable with someone being town, when you’re less active/invested in the game
nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@Rhea
I think you’re town here
are you still confident on Gar? I can see both Gar/Magnus as wolf, and I do get the argument that Gar has (to some amount) played as they must as wolf
but I think Magnus’ progression is worse and less natural to have as town (plus the recent contradiction where they swap me and you in their reads)
At this point, I am very much stuck in my own head. I thought about it early this day phase, and concluded that it must be Garfooled. Every time I try to back up and reconsider from there, I just wear those old paths of habit down more and more. I think it is most likely Garfooled, but I am having trouble assessing my confidence because, quite frankly, I am tunneled.
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mmmmmmmm
can you list the more important reasons you have to suspect Gar
and I’ll see if I can refute them, or match them with similarly potent reasons for Magnus?
First of all, the way bystander expressed a long-winded and confident read on Garfooled and only Garfooled strikes me as wildly different treatment that I don’t think a person playing so casually would use against a potential villager misexecution. It reads like a post concerned with the optics of pushing Garfooled, like it knows the interaction between bystander and Garfooled specifically will be important later. (This is a point I was thinking of in my own defense: if I were a wolf, I would have known my push on bystander would be scrutinized later, so I would have improved its optics greatly.)
Second of all, the team bystander created (Rhea/Garfooled, if either is wrong, Leafia) in her dying moments was in a situation where she knew she would be going out eventually, and I think that she would have taken at least some opportunity to distance here. If she wanted to improve her own standing, she wouldn’t have suspected three villagers. If she wanted to improve her partner’s standing, she wouldn’t have suspected three villagers. I don’t see what she is going here if that list is pure.
Third of all, the way Magnus acts inconsistent and jumps from read to read feels like a player who is also unconcerned with optics. As Webber, they played with great concern toward the way they would look, pushing agenda but only in a squeaky-clean kind of way. Here, Magnus was unafraid to give explicit orders to other players and swap back and forth with seemingly little prompting in a way that I find straightforwardly villagery. Wolves, in my experience, tend to pick a strategy and stick with it, making decisions based on changes in the metaphorical board-state. In a final-five or final-three situation, looking confident, looking like you have the answers, these win you favor. It doesn’t feel like Magnus is looking for that.
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what are you doing once i flip town
Worrying.
who is your next candidate
for real though
do you see no second world?
i find this confidence concerning
as i am town
and it feels to me as if you’re trying hard to come off as you have 0 agenda
Magnus would be my next candidate, as I have stated, but I do not find that to be a convincing world. Hence why I would be worrying.
case magnus
im curious
Magnus has not had any moments that I find to be intensely towny in the same way that I find from Zugzwang and tutuu; they have not tried so hard that they have no excuse to not be dead eventually. Their push on bystander, though I have not reread it in some time, could have simply been identifying which way the wind was blowing and taking advantage of that for credibility. They feel like they sometimes spell out to thread why they are town in a way that is slightly unnatural, and many of their actions feel like they thought “what would a wolf never say here” and went to say exactly that: their “blatant agenda” when directing executions and Vigilante shots, “TMIing” Someone town at the start of Day 1, their comments on how odd the night kills were, et cetera. I can see why they would kill Leafia and then comment on it as an act of misdirection.
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I will share this with you all: in all my time playing mafia, I have never won any execute-or-lose scenario as town, not alive. Whenever I have been brought there, I have always misvoted or been misvoted. That is the only reason why I would be alive, after all: strong suspicion on me or bad reads of my own. I try not to let my nervousness show, but this is not familiar territory to me, and I feel it is unfair to conceal that fact from you.
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