i disagree, i didnt vote Labour in UK election this year on basis I didn’t like their pro-Israeli stance even though I wanted them more than Conservatives and I think its a similiar thing in US. Blaming voters for parties not connecting to them is ??? It’s the responsibilty of parties to win the vote of the people, can’t blame people for not voting for a party whose message they dont agree with. Liberal parties thinking their somehow entitled to left wing votes and then blaming us is the reason they always fail.
The UK’s two-party system is much, much, much, much less strong than the US’
Even I voted third party in the UK for a party that has a stronger pro-Palestine stance than Labour lol
true. but point still stands that being annoyed at people for not voting a party they don’t like isn’t a fair analysis really. it’s a failure of the party not the people.
Probably stronger economic measures to give people help they need. I think some of the issues were frankly letting things get as bad as they did and not controlling the narrative on it sooner. Although, I am somewhat worried there was nothing they could have done to control the narrative as the right-wing continues to capture more and more of traditional media and dominate in the online influencer space which was largely been spurned by the dems.
the choice in the presidential election was less or more innocent people dying. kamala or trump. they were the exact same. I am upset at the people that chose not to choose less innocent people dying.
the US election was literally the trolley problem
a trolley is running over innocent people on the track and the person at the lever is refusing to pull it. there is someone different running for control of the lever. people are saying repeatedly they want a candidate who will pull the lever, and the person who is currently in control of it refuses but scolds them for not voting for them anyway because there’s a secret third track that has even more people tied to it. there is immediate harm being done and it is not motivating to hear that, at best, you can hope for is the status quo that you’re already horrified by.
Yeah for sure but I’d phrase it as it is upsetting the democratic party didn’t do a better job getting people to vote for them. Anger should be directed at the party not just normal people who didn’t vote because the dems message didn’t connect.
I am a member of the scottish liberal democrats and voted lib dems in the UK general election this year despite knowing that labour were going to get into power
we gained net 61 seats since the last election, from 11 to 72
those extra MPs lib dem voters helped to elect can now scrutinise the labour government and actually place pressure on them in parliament to have more pro-trans and pro-palestine stances etc. - they are actually doing something
the progressives sitting home and not voting in the US presidential election does nothing to pressure the dems. I don’t think there was even enough of them to make a difference during the election. it’s the people that went out in 2020 to stop Trump who didn’t vote in 2024 which could’ve saved Kamala, but she is the incumbent VP so she lost
I really have a hard time blaming people who didn’t find “the other guy will just genocide harder” all that compelling. Especially when domestically things are viewed pretty negatively. It doesn’t matter if the economy is in a rough shape due to Republican policies years ago. It’s never mattered. The economy under Trump was great because he inherited a great one from Obama, and people remembered that it was good until COVID. Biden took over and when it was time for the election, the economy wasn’t great and there was the guy who was running when it was better up there again. People have short term memories. The average voter is low information at best, and deeply misinformed at worst.
yeah they’re not the cause of trump winning. they’re just silly people. and I would prefer if they didn’t make the same mistake in 2028
i’m going to repeatedly blame the people with power who did fuck all the curtail the rise of fascism in this country, and just figured it’d sort itself out if we keep doing our same old bullshit that only worked for a few years at best.
oh yeah they’re to blame for the election loss. but I am a bit sympathetic because this was a hard election to win
yes but also blame them for that because i think they’re complicit in the current state of the nation and ignored all the warning signs to continue imperialism as usual
Twitter or bsky screenie. Idr where it was from.
ive found the specific article but i cant find its source and its the only article talking about it (the only other things are people referencing the specific article)
A disaster. Trump won. At least he won’t be able to become president again though after this term is over. If America survives it that is. Now to forget this thread ever existed.
once the 22nd amendment gets repealed the obama vs trump election will go crazy